We still have medical cocaine. It makes sense to have a company who has long term experience processing it to still do the same as long as they keep up the proper permits and labs.
Set this aside and I agree with @reddig33@lemmy.world that i have much less worry about this than i do about all the plastic. I truly wish we could and would move back to glass bottles because those can truly be recycled. Plastic CAN be but most places anymore don’t actually recycle it.
Once upon a time Coca cola used to sell coke in glass bottles that you would then give back to them, they’d wash them, sanitize them and sell them again. You’d pay a small deposit on the bottle that they’d then give back to you. They had bottling centers all over the place.
They switched to plastic bottles because it was much cheaper to let the government handle the garbage problem
I’m not sure how it would even make sense to have globally centralised bottling.
Luckily Wikipedia keeps a page on this, and I see there are almost twenty bottling plants in the US alone. Another industry blogger breathlessly reports that coke has 900+ bottling and syrup plants across the globe.
To your point I’m sure some glass bottles get shipped internationally, but it doesn’t appear to be their M.O. They keep a few syrup plants across the globe and many bottling plants and distribution partners who work more locally, so the weight of their shipping media for the beverage is likely to be fairly well optimised.
Switching to glass across the globe would be a task for local bottlers and distributors, and although it might pose some challenges it’d be worth it imo
As far as I understand it comes down to recycling rates: In countries like Germany where there’s mandatory deposit on one-use plastic bottles it’s a definitive win, in other places the situation isn’t as clear-cut. PET bottles can be recycled very well provided you have a clean recycling stream, which the deposit ensures.
Still, beer in plastic bottles is a travesty, it’s generally deposit glass bottles over here (some brewery-specific, many many many generic though the crates tend to be specific). Cans at least won’t spoil the beer, but are also more annoying deposit-wise as you have to take care to not crush them in the wrong way or the machine won’t be able to read the code.
Side note: Apparently our whole traditional glass recycling is cooked, too much stuff that shouldn’t be in there in there that spoils whole batches. And very difficult to educate people about it or filter things out automatically, sure, ceramics can be filtered out, but drinking glasses of the wrong type of glass messing up the whole chemistry? Forget it. The good news is that crushed glass makes excellent aggregate, I’ve even heard of some places using it to top up beaches.
Glass vs plastic has two issues, glass costs more to ship because it weighs many times what glass does and glass comes with increased rates of injury from broken glass. Cans are the best solution.
Cans are still flawed. The inside is coated in plastic as well, so while the aluminum is recyclable, and indeed frequently recycled, the plastic inside is not.
We still have medical cocaine. It makes sense to have a company who has long term experience processing it to still do the same as long as they keep up the proper permits and labs.
Set this aside and I agree with @reddig33@lemmy.world that i have much less worry about this than i do about all the plastic. I truly wish we could and would move back to glass bottles because those can truly be recycled. Plastic CAN be but most places anymore don’t actually recycle it.
I read recently that recycled plastics make better railroad ties than wood does. You’d think someone would jump on that.
You have wood railroad ties? You mean the bars under the rails?
Yes. And they are usually treated with creosote. Which is why you should never use them in a vegetable garden.
We still don’t have high speed rail in the US.
Why? Do cars ride on railroad tracks now? (Yes, I am dimly aware there are also places outside the US.)
Always have? 🌎 🧑🚀🔫🧑🚀
I’d expect them to stay sane and use prestressed concrete ones like the rest of the industry. Steel might make sense in some situations.
Do you mean the sleepers?
The US and Canada apparently wanted to be special, again.
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Once upon a time Coca cola used to sell coke in glass bottles that you would then give back to them, they’d wash them, sanitize them and sell them again. You’d pay a small deposit on the bottle that they’d then give back to you. They had bottling centers all over the place.
They switched to plastic bottles because it was much cheaper to let the government handle the garbage problem
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The glass also needs more energy to be shaped.
In EU we optionally have returnable plastic bottles for coca cola, which will be reused until worn down.
I’m not sure how it would even make sense to have globally centralised bottling.
Luckily Wikipedia keeps a page on this, and I see there are almost twenty bottling plants in the US alone. Another industry blogger breathlessly reports that coke has 900+ bottling and syrup plants across the globe.
To your point I’m sure some glass bottles get shipped internationally, but it doesn’t appear to be their M.O. They keep a few syrup plants across the globe and many bottling plants and distribution partners who work more locally, so the weight of their shipping media for the beverage is likely to be fairly well optimised.
Switching to glass across the globe would be a task for local bottlers and distributors, and although it might pose some challenges it’d be worth it imo
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As far as I understand it comes down to recycling rates: In countries like Germany where there’s mandatory deposit on one-use plastic bottles it’s a definitive win, in other places the situation isn’t as clear-cut. PET bottles can be recycled very well provided you have a clean recycling stream, which the deposit ensures.
Still, beer in plastic bottles is a travesty, it’s generally deposit glass bottles over here (some brewery-specific, many many many generic though the crates tend to be specific). Cans at least won’t spoil the beer, but are also more annoying deposit-wise as you have to take care to not crush them in the wrong way or the machine won’t be able to read the code.
Side note: Apparently our whole traditional glass recycling is cooked, too much stuff that shouldn’t be in there in there that spoils whole batches. And very difficult to educate people about it or filter things out automatically, sure, ceramics can be filtered out, but drinking glasses of the wrong type of glass messing up the whole chemistry? Forget it. The good news is that crushed glass makes excellent aggregate, I’ve even heard of some places using it to top up beaches.
Glass vs plastic has two issues, glass costs more to ship because it weighs many times what glass does and glass comes with increased rates of injury from broken glass. Cans are the best solution.
Cans are still flawed. The inside is coated in plastic as well, so while the aluminum is recyclable, and indeed frequently recycled, the plastic inside is not.
True but that does burn off during recycling so while it is not perfect they are better than glass or plastic from a carbon footprint POV.