Friendly reminder that Thunderbird is a great way to handle multiple email accounts on the desktop.
There are no perfect desktop email clients, but Thunderbird is pretty great.
It’s a little too powerful for my needs, so I stick to Claws.
I moved away from a desktop client for several years because of Thunderbird staying stuck in the 2010s, but the redesign brought me back into the fold. It’s certainly overkill for scanning through subject lines, but compared to having five tabs open …
Bluemail is decent. But im still always looking for better.
Mailspring is pretty cool :)
Mailspring doesn’t handle folders well. When I was testing it, it synced my inbox fine, but none of the folders worked. I even set up a dev environment to try and fix it myself, but couldn’t get things working properly.
Correct me if I’m wrong, I very well might be, but doesn’t Bluemail do the same thing as the new Outlook for their “instant push” feature? I don’t see how else they’d accomplish that.
Ain’t that the truth.
Geary is so close to perfect but they depend on Gnome Online accounts which doesn’t support O365 so I can use it for everything but my university email.
But Thunderbird still doesn’t support outlook calendar etc right?
It does support any good calendar using CalDav standard.
I hate how they use quotes around the name Thunderbird…
I must say I’m quite pleased with it too. The previous time I tried it was in 2005 and it was just ok. I also recently found out about the Owl add-on. Really makes it a good alternative
It can even look great with the Monterail Dark 2 Add-On.
(For some reason I had to download it and then install it from the downloaded file, but it DOES work!)
Also available in a Full Dark mode version
It’s ok Microsoft are very sorry you found out
PSA: mailbox.org has a great, privacy focused email service.
I went on a trawl on email security and privacy.
It doesn’t fucking exist.
Regular mails w/e sure
But I’m never talking to someone via email again.
Privacy-focused email doesn’t truly exist, since it’s likely 90%+ of people you email are probably using Gmail, Hotmail/Outlook, or Yahoo. Companies like Gmail/Google could still build a profile of you if they wanted to, by collecting all the threads you’re a participant in.
The best you can do is self-host your mailbox (e.g. Using Mailcow) with an encrypted file system (e.g. using LUKS), but you’d still need to use an SMTP gateway to ensure deliverability, so it’s going to be relayed through, and ultimately end up at, some third-party you have no control over. Some third-parties don’t even have TLS enabled for their email servers.
You shouldn’t think of email as a private or secure communication mechanism unless you’re encrypting your emails.
Agreed, but unfortunately, unless they implement VJOURNAL in their caldav implementation, I’ll probably switch to Fastmail when my prepay is up.
Fastmail is a great provider, very happy customers, but with them being in a five eyes country, I don’t trust them. But it’s only email which is a nightmare protocol regarding privacy anyways so I don’t really care.
Encryption + POP should be part of every privacy conscious person’s repertoire.
The old outlook was just perfect, the new one is positively abhorrent. I swear if they force one more app to me I’m going to purposefully stop using it altogether
Why wait?
I don’t see how this is any different from adding another e-mail account on gmail.
The program it replaced didn’t do this, hence the surprise. You could be using the old program, and one day windows update it with this new program, and suddenly your passwords are uploaded to Microsoft cloud service when you launched it. People would similarly surprised if K-9 mail upcoming replacement, Thunderbird mobile, suddenly store your password in the cloud.
Why is someone using Outlook to sync a different email address?
Why not keep the apps separate? Or use the Mail app built into Windows?
Seriously, someone explain the use case here because I don’t understand. If you’re using an outlook account, MS already has all that stuff. And if you don’t have an Outlook account, why are you using Outlook?
Why is someone using Outlook to sync a different email address?
Outlook is an email client. It can work with any email provider. The fact that they started calling the server-side “Outlook” as well has made things super confusing.
Or use the Mail app built into Windows?
So the gist is the default mail app is being “upgraded” by Microsoft to Outlook for Windows app, so your account credentials previously stored in the mail app now got uploaded into the cloud.
Oh gross. Yeah, that’s not okay.
Thanks for the clarification
Configuring local software vs delegating to a web service
| Creates account with service provider
| Surprised when megically, service provider has password
I don’t get it.
Using the Outlook client with a none-Outlook email shares the data with Microsoft. So, a bit surprising.
Service providers aren’t actually supposed to know your password. Passwords should always be sent after hashing on client side. Only the hashes are matched on server side.
Edit: Not accurate, read replies.
Mailbox.org doesn’t allow you to sign up at this time. Is this… getting teary eyes lemmy… having impact on the webs?
Why can’t you sign up?
They block countries that originate a lot of spam from signup, which includes the US @smokedclover@feddit.de. You can use a VPN to signup, though I did have to reach out to support at one point very early on to finalize some provisioning. I don’t know if it was related to the geo-blocking, it’s been awhile. But I’ve had no problems since.
“We apologize, but for maintenance work the registration of new accounts is currently blocked. Please check back later.” But it still says that so there probably is some maintenance going (wr)on(g).
school requires outlook account ._.
Use a different mail app, and use the outlook account.
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Because this post is about the Outlook client. Using a different client avoids ‘features’ in the Outlook client.
Microsoft have made things super confusing by using “Outlook” to refer to both the client and the server, when they’re separate things. The client works with any email provider, and Hotmail / Outlook / Office 365 / whatever email accounts can be used with most clients.
Aw fuck. I accidentally opened it and it automatically upgraded to the new one. I barely ever use it though
Should left once they start upload nudes into cloud 10 years ago
