White House threatens to veto anti-EV bill just passed by US House::The bill would prevent the EPA from enforcing tougher new pollution standards.
Good. This is just theater for the knuckle-dragging Republican base anyway. The dems who went along with it can eat a bag of dicks.
Anyone notice how many news stories nowadays start with "Republicans block or halt or shut down or remove something… They aren’t doing anything… Just keeping anyone else from doing anything
People are probably getting sick of me saying this by now, but of course Republicans aren’t doing anything, this is their philosophy. Their core beliefs are in conserving traditional hierarchies and norms. God over man, men over women and children, white over black, rich over poor, cis-het over LGBT people and other hierarchies.
Their actions are best understood through the lens of conservative philosophy and the maintenance or restoration of socio-economic hierarchies.
To achieve their goals, they really only need to do a few things legialativly,
- Stop progress and change
- Rollback change
You see 1 all the time, they dont even need to be in power to do it. They just need to get in the way. If they get power, you see 2, and since they’re trying to rollback generational change, not even decades old precedent is safe (see Roe vs. Wade).
The best part is that they got us fighting each other so much. They’ve managed to divide us across whatever line you can think of.
All of this is a distraction. While racism and sexism absolutely exist, they fortunately aren’t the cornerstones of our hierarchies anymore. Thats great, but now we have a caste system, and nobody wants to acknowledge it.
And then Jesus said: "White power sieg heil! " - The Bible according to you
He’s just explaining conservative ideology
Seems clear to me that my explanation covers pretty well the reasons white power groups and orthodox/conservative Christians are right wing. They aren’t the same groups, necessarily, but they both want to conserve their respective hierarchies.
You can’t call them “Christians”. They are just racists with a Bible in their hand.
They’re not real Christians! /s
Yes and Russia and China are democracies because they said so.
The Bible is pretty clear on racism and feeding the poor etc.
Learn your fallacies.
It’s not that people disagree with you about the hypocrisy here, but rather that you’re being a real cockface about every interaction you’re having.
They are just racists with a Bible in their hand.
I grew up in churches around religious people, you just described 99% of “Christians” in the American South.
Moses recieved the 10 commandments from Mt Sinai, notably among them being “thou shalt not kill” immediately after massacring an entire army and then immediately went to war and wiped out an entire nation in a genocide.
And thats in the Bible.
The only good Christian, by Christians’ own admission, was Christ himself.
I’m not gonna defend the entire Bible here but that story was about Amalek, a specific people not humanity in general. Also they had some voodoo stuff in there about them transforming into animals. It was kinda out there.
The water of the sea drowning the Pharaos army chasing the israelites doesn’t seem like a moral dilemma to me.
The not killing part refers to not just killing anyone or stealing their stuff etc. Actual self defense is fine.
You can focus on the few war stories but I know a bunch of good Christians who have adopted kids, feed the poor and do a lot of charity stuff etc. The actual good stuff.
Considering their whole M.O. is regression or conservation of the status quo, that’s not surprising
That’s all they ever do when Democrats are in control. So annoying
Democrats suck ass and do the same thing. Two parties my ass. It’s a game and we’re the pawns.
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If you want to be “the party of no” you can’t allow things to happen.
It could be that. It could also be where you’re getting your headlines from.
Except we’ve been trying everything else for decades now
And there’s still plenty more to try. They’ve barely even scratched the surface of the whole genocide-your-own-population thing
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He never said that, but it’s still a heck of a good quote.
Yeah, but it’s on a picture and I agree with it, because it’s shitting on Americans, so I’m going to mindlessly parrot it!
As an American I can honestly say “No lies detected”.
like winston fucking churchill is any better
Fucking dipshit asshole bastard republiQans. Evil, stupid, sociopathic, and cheating every way possible. As usual.
Are you telling me, that my US rep Tim Fucking Walberg, that useless fuck, actually accomplished something? I’m actually kind of impressed. The bill is straight up dogshit, but he actually submitted something and dogged it through committee and got the full chamber to vote on something.
I call bullshit. Someone else did this, and pawned it off onto Tim. Either because they didn’t want to be responsible for it, or they felt sorry for him. Hell, I feel sorry for him.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The White House’s plan to boost electric vehicle adoption came under heavy fire in Congress on Wednesday.
Five Democratic Representatives joined the Republican majority to pass a bill that would prohibit the US Environmental Protection Agency from enacting stricter new corporate average fuel efficiency regulations that would require automakers to sell many more EVs by the year 2032.
But burning fewer hydrocarbons has become anathema to the modern Republican Party, and former President Donald Trump’s administration focused some of its attention on undermining the EPA’s ability to regulate tailpipe emissions or cut gasoline dependence.
A pair of Texas Democrats (Henry Cuellar and Vicente Gonzales), as well as Jared Golden (D-Maine), Donald Davis (D-N.C.), and Mary Peltola (D-Alaska) all voted with the Republican Party.
It says the EPA cannot “finalize, implement, or enforce” new vehicle pollution regulations that are meant to go into effect in 2027.
The White House strongly condemned the legislation, which it says would “catastrophically impair” the EPA’s ability to regulate vehicle pollution, and President Joe Biden has threatened to veto the bill should it pass the Senate and be sent to his desk.
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Why threaten, do it already.
The bill has been passed by the House but not the Senate. It is not yet ready to be signed or vetoed.
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Current battery tech for EV’s is only good for short range commuters who have a means to charge from their homes. That leaves out half the population.
Hybrid EVs are pretty good for everything. Their batts are small enough to be easily replaced when they go bad (all EV’s of every type will have their batteries need replaced in 10 to 20 years time) and you don’t need to plug them in so no range issues or priving unregulated EV charging station to worry about finding.
That’s really the only type of EV the US should be concentrating on until there’s better battery options available. A 1500 Lb Battery that costs over $10,000 to have replaced so you can go 300 miles when the car is new (and temps are warm) and have it slowly dwindle down lower and lower with every charge is a waste that will prematurely add vehicles to landfills.
Oh no, ONLY half the entire population of the United States would benefit from EVs* so let’s throw those cars in the trash.
- Even if this is true I don’t care because: see above.
the average daily commute for the vast majority of Americans is well within what can be maintained with a at home level one charger.
but you make that argument and people start wringing their hands and try to come up with other excuses, like the unimaginable horrors of extension cords or something else to continue to argue against EV.
Its a classic american tactic. “IF ITS NOT 100000% PERFECT, IMMEDIATELY AND AT THE START, THEN WE CANT DO IT!(unless it involves giving money to billionaires, of fascist dictator ships, or for the bombing of brown people)”
Spoken like someone who hasn’t used an EV and hasn’t actually looked into it themselves. Modern EVs work for the huge vast majority of commuters even on level 1 charging (a regular 120v home outlet). It’s also much more convenient for them, as they never need to go to a gas station again.
The biggest issue is apartment dwellers. Apartment owners should be required to maintain a certain number and level of access to charging equipment per apartment. Just access to level 1 charging would likely be fine, they just have to be forced to make it available.
you don’t need to plug them in so no range issues or priving unregulated EV charging station to worry about finding.
But if these cars charge their batteries by burning more gas then whats the point of having EV at all?
Power plants are more efficient at getting usable energy than your car’s engine in general. There are some transmission losses, etc that favor the car, but on the balance, for the fossil fuels you burn, you’ll get more car-miles if you burn them in a power plant, than in the car itself. And some of your electricity comes from wind, water, nuclear, and other clean sources, which makes electric cars even bigger winners in terms of using less fossil fuels.
Sure, I’d rather have electrified non-battery public transit than any kind of cars, but EVs are still an improvement over ICEs.
I think I didn’t make my point clear. I am of course pro EV cars because of all the benefit you mentioned.
I am questioning the idea of a hybrid car that can only be charged by pumping more petrol. might as well buy a normal car and leave the batteries to the true EV car that truly need them
Hybrids are still generally more fuel efficient than equivalent non hybrids especially in non highway conditions. And you have plugin hybrids which are effectively EVs with the peace of mind that on those handful of trips that do exceed your range you can get there just fine.
Don’t forget that you’re toting essentially two cars in a single platform, both gas and ev. The big advantage EVs and hybrids have is regeneration, a good chunk of the energy normally lost as ambient heat in brake pads gets pumped back into the batteries.
But there’s all the added weight and complexity accompanying that. The Prius appears quite reliable, so far. But I’d rather just use my bicycle or motorcycle.
They don’t just charge by burning gas. The main time you burn up a lot of fuel is when accelerating from a stop and climbing a hill. That’s when something like a prius will use the electric motor and battery, then just use its gas motor to cruise at a steady speed on a flat roadway. The battery will charge itself when hitting the brake or taking your foot off the accelerator and slowing down or going down a hill.
It’s why the prius is popular. It’s a 75 pound battery but helps provide adequate acceleration and gets 50mpg by having a small and fuel efficient gas engine.
Ya that make sense. But then their positive effect on climate is minimal. Hopefully no one would think they are half helping the planet by buying a hybrid
Full evs will fill a landfill in 15 years time and need an entire new car to be built to replace it. New 1500 lbs of lithium and Cobalt and nickel battery as well to be mined.
You want to help the environment you’d be doing far more by installing solar on your roof and buying an ice vehicle than you would be by buying an EV with today’s battery tech in it. How “green” they are is only skin deep right now. That will change later when more electricity is from renewable sources and batteries in EV’s improve beyond what they’re at using heavy li po chemistry. But that’s later. Not now.
Full evs will fill a landfill in 15 years time and need an entire new car to be built to replace
Doesn’t that applies to any car? or you mean because many EV companies make it difficult to repair their product using a 3ed party? That’s why we need a “right to repair bill”, there is nothing fundamental in EV cars that make them non-serviceable.
New 1500 lbs of lithium and Cobalt and nickel battery as well to be mined
I agree that EVs are not as green as one might think and I am also hopefully that things will change in the future. however that doesn’t mean we stick with ordinary cars for now. If no body buy EV, the companies would simply shut down and there won’t be “future” to talk about.
It like solar panel they used to have terrible efficiency and lot of gas emission producing them and people were wondering if they really are any greener but had people stopped buying them back then, we wouldn’t have better versions today.
