Here are a few discord comments about the situation from the Helldivers 2 discord:

  • atmur@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    It’s insane to me that this is a hill Sony is willing to die on. So much goodwill to throw away just to collect a bit more data on users.

    Just remember, if they’re willing to enforce this nonsense, you can be sure that there will be more nonsense to come. “Sorry everyone, Sony decided we need lootboxes! But our team is on the side of the players!”

    I hate modern AAA games, I’m gonna go try out that new Stardew Valley update.

    • whereisk@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Someone high up will probably lose a lot of face if it doesn’t go through. I’m assuming someone looked at numbers in a spreadsheet and asked why on earth do they have a huge pool of data they can’t legally use to enhance their ad targeting - when the developers said it might be a problem with our users they said fuck them, just ram it through. How do they backpedal without looking like out of touch idiots?

    • Focie@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      It’s not even much data at all. A game dev friend of mine took a look at what is shared through Steam’s own API, and it’s just a unique ID basically verifying that the steam account belongs to that steam user. The worst they can do with that is ask if the user already owns this or that game, likely just from the same publisher.

      They probably just want the ability to better ban people if they are griefing other players (or make sure people can’t cheat their way to more super credits)

      The whole thing is such a nothing burger from sony’s part, it makes it even more absurd that they’re doing this!

      • lazynooblet@lazysoci.al
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        6 months ago

        I’ve seen this said a few times. Armed with the steam id already, what does having the PSN account improve on?

        If they can get a new steam account, they can get a new anything account.

        • Focie@lemmy.world
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          If I had to guess, I’m guessing it would add another layer that MOST griefers aren’t willing to go through, but let’s be honest… Look at the shit show here. No amount of ban control has to be worth getting your game delisted in 170 countries :P

    • WolfLink@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      Honestly I’m scared for Destiny 2. The game’s on the verge of death already and it’s just awaiting a nail in the coffin, which Sony could deliver at any time.

      • TIMMAY@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        did you happen to miss when they made the original content and the first couple dlc’s unavailable to play and refused to give refunds for it? Bungie can fucking die in a hole and destiny 2 has been a trash fire for years already

        • WolfLink@lemmy.ml
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          6 months ago

          They’ve had their ups and downs. Vaulting content is not the worst thing they’ve done.

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    6 months ago

    Their business plan is forcing people to create a free account and shut people out from sales?

    Being an Executive in a huge Corp must be the easiest job in the world. How can you come up with this idea, and get paid for it?

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    6 months ago

    Sony really wanting become a player on PC and realizing they’re a console company.

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    6 months ago

    A Japanese business making stupid business decisions? Why I never…

    Unfortunately, this will probably scuttle the game, if another company can get a similar game out in a reasonable time frame it’s probably GG.

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    6 months ago

    Spitz isn’t a dev, they’re a Community Manager, and a tone deaf one at that.

    • EchoCT@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      Community manager or not,he still has a Vested interest in the games success. I think this is pretty clearly a Sony being shitty thing. I hope they are trying to find a better answer because I like Helldivers but I’m also not willing to deal with Sonys bullshit.

      • naticus@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        My saying they’re a CM isn’t my giving them a pass. But dev vs CM is an important distinction regardless. A CM should know how to address people publicly and not incite even more rage by belittling people’s concerns. The only apology they gave so far was the most non-apology you could imagine too.

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          I don’t disagree, but they also can’t give a real apology without pissing off the publisher who can shut it all down period. They’re damned if the do and damned if they don’t.

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          6 months ago

          Could you please whine another paragraph about something if possible even more trivial?

    • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de
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      6 months ago

      Imagine being a Community Manager and having no idea how the bullshit your publisher wants to pull off affects your community but still initially siding with them lol

      Must be a fucking easy job.

  • InternetUser2012@midwest.social
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    6 months ago

    I bought this game, installed it, then the next day the announced this bullshit. Refunded without even loading it up. Added Sony to my do not buy from list. Hard pass.