Innovation and privacy go hand in hand here at Mozilla…

Is this the time to drop firefox?

    • Guadin@k.fe.derate.meOP
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      6 months ago

      Librefox? Or something else? Don’t know, but since Firefox is often recommended for privacy, I was wondering if this changes things?

      • jet@hackertalks.com
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        6 months ago

        mozilla is on a bad path, but they are still the most privacy respecting (with configuration) option of the big browsers today.

        • deweydecibel@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          And the fact they provide those configurations is important in and of itself. Configurable software is falling more and more out of fashion.

      • TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        This is disabled if you turn off telemetry in the settings, which users should already be doing anyway. I don’t see this as any worse than what they already do.

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          6 months ago

          which users should already be doing anyway.

          Not necessarily. If you want to support the software it’s generally a good idea to leave it on as it helps the devs find bugs and what features are needed and what existing features that are used.

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          6 months ago

          Why would I disable telemetry when it can give valuable information for development purposes?

          • nintendiator@feddit.cl
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            6 months ago

            Capture everything you do on the browser 24/7 to machine-process it for “points”

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            Simply asking for feedback or taking feedback directly on the points I’m interested, for example with a survey or Mozilla Connect

      • jet@hackertalks.com
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        6 months ago

        UN googled chromium is pretty good honestly.

        But… you will lose lots of privacy options with manifest v3.

  • deweydecibel@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Are we ignoring the part where you can disable it the same way you always could?

    They even when out of their way to assure you if you already had telemetry disabled, absolutely nothing is changing for you and no data is being collected now.

  • ItCantBeThatEasy@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I don’t really understand what search topics have to do with improving the browser. The blog post doesn’t make that clear at all.

      • jet@hackertalks.com
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        6 months ago

        Because the lived experience of many users is the browser integrates with the search engine to give you predictive suggestions as you type, identify images, translate, etc.

        • youmaynotknow@lemmy.ml
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          6 months ago

          That’s cool, the thing is that Mozilla does not have a search engine. What’s the use for them? Benchmarking other engines? Knowing engine rankings?

          What you mention in your comment, they already do now.

          • jet@hackertalks.com
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            6 months ago

            I don’t think they make a ton of sense. Just that there is some rational for a browser executive to talk about search engines.

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              6 months ago

              Oh yeah, anything that can be potentially used to make more revenue will make sense to most C-suites.

              I’m just glad there are still alternatives, but the degradation of quality of life for Firefox users just keeps dropping, and that is really sad.

    • Ilandar@aussie.zone
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      6 months ago

      This is my question as well. I am happy to leave it on if they can provide a clearer explanation of what my data will be used for, but for now it will remain off.

  • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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    6 months ago

    I’m not a fan of automated data collection, regardless of the reason. I see the merit, though, but I won’t allow it. The post is very clear about the preserved anonymity of the collected data, which is good, and on how to easily opt out, which is great.

    This statement, however, was a bit strange. Almost like they are being flippant on local laws. Since I know this isn’t the case here, they should have phrased it different. (Emphasis mine)

    Your search activities are handled with the same level of confidentiality as all other data regardless of any local laws surrounding certain health services.

    • Cargon@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      They definitely could have phrased this better. I think what they mean is that their level of confidentiality meets or exceeds local laws.

      • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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        6 months ago

        That’s what I also understood. It’s just an odd, almost incorrect, phrasing. Unless our understanding is wrong, and they actually mean that they won’t follow the local laws if said laws require them to violate privacy.