No vertical Taskbar. -1
Horrible multiple monitor support. -1
AI built in. -1
Ads in the start menu. -1
Until this list starts at zero I’m not even remotely interested.
It’s Microsoft. -5
Telemetry everywhere. -5
Upcoming automatic screenshots of your screen on a regular basis! - 1000 (Microsoft Recall)
This is a horrible, horrible software that nobody should run…
Isn’t the multi-monitor support better in 11? It properly supports restoring windows into the correct monitor when you reconnect monitors.
Yeah that one works.
And there’s so much more you could criticize anyway:
Edge? No thx, if I want it I will install it myself.
TPM? Wtf bro, take it out.
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:::> Edge? No thx, if I want it I will install it myself.
Hey now, back when I used Windows, I found Edge to be perfectly suited to it’s job… of downloading Firefox.
I wish I could praise Edge as one of my top five favorite ways to install Firefox, but …
- flatpak
- apt
- Ansible
- git clone; make install
- curl | sudo
Edge doesn’t crack the top 5 anymore, after all.
Well for me it does not work (T470s, two docks, different monitors). Well, it does sometimes work after the second reboot.
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Microsoft doing great things for Linux adoption. Linux is incredible btw
Yeah. I spent years saying “Linux is a bit better than Windows now, but I can’t give you a compelling reason to switch, if you’re comfortable and happy.”
Nice of Microsoft to take care of that last part.
I feel like ~5 years ago Windows 10 was really making some great strives to get developers back on Windows instead of Apple and Linux. Oh well.
So, basically nothing new in Windows 11 that I want and a whole lot of things I don’t.
Don’t you fucking disregard Paint…
NOBODY ignores Paint.
They’re removing Wordpad. WORDPAD. because they want people to buy Office 365. The bastards. And they wonder why people turn on them.
It’s death by 1000 cuts.Edit in Paint 3D
I’m was not allowed to upgrade from them. I’m not going to throw away a perfectly fine pc.
Installed Ubuntu and I’m having a blast.
Why tf do I have to spend thousands on new hardware to run a new OS that I don’t want?
Fuck off Microsoft
The main reason I didn’t move to Windows 11 when it was new was it being picky and refusing to install on a processor that was only released two years before the OS (my setup itself being only a year old at the time). Since most things I’ve read about it since then act as a deterrent to upgrading instead of an incentive I now have no real inclination to try and update from 10 until I’m forced to by software requirements.
But why would you upgrade if forced? You know you will have a subpar experience. Is it because of software you use that only runs on Windows?
The software I need on Windows will live on an isolated instance of Windows 10 in a VM on Linux when the time comes that MS stops releasing security updates for 10.
How is the performance on a VM? I use Windows for VR and Musicproduction. Like 10%, 20% performance dip?
I don’t know, I still haven’t done this yet!
But my needs might be different from yours. In my case, my music production skills just require an old version of FL Studio. I’m sure it will run fine in a VM.
Yeah, I just upgrades my CPU, and even on my old one everything worked fine.
One more question though: why go the VM route instead of dualbooting? I guess mostly so you still have acces to all Linux stuff while using Windows?
Correct. I just want to remain in Linux. Plus the Windows OS will be unmaintained, so I will never connect it to the internet. So I’d be without Internet meanwhile I’m in the other partition. A VM solves that.
I still retain a Windows install for games, and eventually things stop working easily. I kept running Windows 7 up until around when I built my current PC (2020) and that upgrade was due to some compatibility issue - I can’t remember whether it was hardware compatibility with the new setup or a game/launcher requiring Windows 10 before I upgraded. I expect that I will eventually get something that wants 11 to work.
Mind you I spend a lot less time on games these days and I will probably get a few more years out of that computer - it might be a good while before compatibility/security becomes an issue and I’m required to consider moving on.
I assume they mean in the long long run when Windows 10 LTSC stops being supported
Sure, but the question still remains…
In my case, I will NEVER upgrade to Windows 11. I’d rather use another OS.
No arguments here Linux gets better every day but I understand why some people still need Windows in their life
Many folks have older PCs that won’t run 11. And buying a new PC not high on the list when you’re worried about paying for rent, food, transportation, medicine, etc.
My high end PC from 3 years ago won’t run Windows 11 because of TPM bullshit.
For many is probably just the right opportunity to jump to apple. For older folk, they will keep using windows xp/vista. Microsoft offers little to no value over the alternatives.
Most of us, tech savvy are already in linux we will probably just delete the Windows partition.
I’ve recently gotten a couple (absolutely tech illiterate) friends and family to move to Linux. It’s finally there - it’s much easier to use than windows now.
And if you don’t want to keep shelling out for new computers every few years, doubly so - Linux works fine on decade+ old hardware (and you can keep upgrading practically indefinitely to stay within security windows, so you barely ever need to actually buy new hardware)
Ah Windows 11, Vista 2.0.
I see you forgot about a gem called “ME”
That needed a trigger warning
3.0
2.0 was windows 8.
And here was me thinking windows 8 was just a beta release of vista that was leaked by Microsoft!
Win11 has excellent WSL support. Way better than Win10.
Linux supports WSL even better, practically native
Any time a company is pushing a change this hard I know it’s not something I want.
Literally just picked up a new laptop and immediately uninstalled windows 11. Drivers will be fiddly but it’s already working fine.
I will never use the privacy ffest that is win 11.
Got my new Thinkpad T14S yesterday and immediately installed Linux Mint. I refuse to give in to the Windows 11 pressure.
Have you tried to refund the Windows license? (Assuming you didn’t set it up)
Hmmm I couldn’t get it to boot off the usb till I’d set up win11. I didn’t know I could refund w11 or I’d have tried harder!
I already got upgraded. Notice the passive voice. That shit should be illegal.
You know what? Fuck you (installs windows 11 on your computer)
Yeah that and my PC randomly decides to crash and restart now without blue screen.
Blue screen add on now $5.99 subscription
I had a nightmare where windows 11 was automatically installed on my Linux computer since it shared network with a windows one.
Least threatening Windows behavior
This list genuinely looks like some of the marketing they had around Win7 times. No joke.
Snap? Yep, advertised feature. Touchscreen stuff? Absolutely! Better search? Yeah, advertised (and it was true in Windows 7!). New app to make movies? They got it. I guess the Win 7 page was missing Widgets. That was a Vista feature instead…
I miss Windows 7.
Yeah, I’ve already moved most of machines over to various Linux distro because of Windows bloat, spying, ads, etc. For the one windows box I keep, Ameliorated Windows 10 has been treating me pretty well as it seems to strip out most of the crap that keeps getting grafted on to drive shareholder value or whatever.
WinCE
Not a big Privacy concern, Can you just go turn on recall on the store PC where they sell these?
