You’re not entirely wrong, but the ground in the panel is better for lightning strikes, and surprisingly bad at sinking actual current meant for the neutral return to the transformer.

That’s part of what makes a loose neutral such a fire hazard.

Yes, it’s likely safe, and I’d probably put my hand on it without much thought, same with working in a hot panel, the neutral/ground bus is probably fine.

But this is the Internet, if you start making blanket statements about things being safe, you’re gonna have a bad time. And some person who doesn’t know any better, might have a worse time.

Better to at least acknowledge that there are still dangers, however small.

Even though it’s neutral, and very close to ground potential… Depending on how much current is flowing through the other two wires, the voltage on the neutral will be varying amounts of non zero. Probably not enough to kill you, but maybe enough to feel bad, under the right circumstances.

That’s why, even though the neutral and the ground are bonded together in the breaker panel, you still need to run a separate wire to your outlet to ground your appliances. Electricity doesn’t take the easiest path, it takes all paths simultaneously, relative to their resistance, favoring the easiest. Don’t make yourself a path 🤷‍♂️

Still nothing to be afraid of, you shouldn’t be messing with it anyway. Just steer clear and you’ll be fine.

Note: I’m not an electrician.

I was thinking this might be the case, but didn’t want to do the math. Thank you.

I’ve thought about doing this. In fact, if I ever own or build a house, I’ll be adding 240v plugs for exactly this reason. Something like a nema 6-15 or 6-20, with a GFCI breaker in the box to make it (presumably) legal.

Same here, happened when I was young. Thankfully I wasn’t holding it in my hand, it was on the counter. I didn’t get burned

Jokes aside, you can microwave small smooth metal vessels. Like mixing bowls and such.

Do so at your own risk, if it doesn’t specify that it’s microwave safe.

But you can buy ones that specifically say they are microwave safe. It just means they’re extra smooth, nowhere for charges to accumulate or concentrate. Might have something to do with it’s size too, not being resonant at 2.4ghz, but don’t quote me on that part.

Useful if you don’t want to take leftovers out of the plastic container first, and if you’ve had glass explode on you before.

That makes sense, I’ll try the Bowline on a bite and report back! Thanks!

Thanks for the expert advice! I didn’t realize sheet bends were so suspect, I’ll have to research the knots you described.

Hmmm, maybe I tied the butterfly wrong or am remembering it wrong. I’ll have to play with it and see, it’s honestly been a year or two since I’ve put one under load.

And thanks for the disclaimer! Yeah I didn’t mean to make it sound so easy to help someone with knots, I’ve never actually used a bowline for this purpose, I’ve just heard it explained that way for emergency use. But I agree it’d have to be an extreme emergency to risk using the wrong equipment or technique, better to just wait for proper help if it’s safe to do so.

All of my experience is just novice stuff with Paracord, etc etc. My rock climbing experience is all just indoor bouldering 😬

Thanks again!

I’ll add to this, know how to use good rope, learn a few knots, and you’ll be surprised at how often you use them even in your daily life.

My favorites, and thus my recommendations, are these, in order of usefulness.

1. The Bowline. Obviously. It’s one of the most versatile knots you can make. You use it to create a loop around something, and that loop will not move. It will not tighten or loosen, it can support your body weight and more. It’s often used to haul people up when they’ve fallen into a crevice or hole, because a noose would tighten around your chest and hurt you on the way up, but a Bowline will not.

And, if you need a noose, you can make a small looped Bowline, and pull the lead line through it to make a noose that will self tighten on whatever your putting it around.

Best of all, the Bowline is easy to remove. You know how hard a regular square knot is to undo? Especially if you’ve pulled it really tight? A Bowline knot, by design, is always easier to undo, even if it’s seen hundreds of pounds of load. It really is the best knot, in my opinion.

If you can only learn one knot, make it a Bowline.

2. Truckers hitch. I use this knot all the time. Have you ever tried to use rope to tie something down? And no matter how tight you pull the rope, by the time you’re done making the knot, the rope has slipped a bit, and it’s looser than you’d like? Especially annoying when trying to put up a clothes line at camp, and it’s all droopy.

Enter the truckers hitch. This knot let’s you cinch the rope up super tight, and lock it in place, so it stays that way. Plus the finished knot always has a tail you can pull to easily undo it. This is useful for clotheslines, hammocks, tying stuff to your truck or bike, plenty of uses, easily my second favorite knot. Tied for first, practically.

3. Sheet bend. Have a rope that’s too short? Need to extend it a bit to get the job done? Sheet bend, double or triple sheet bend depending on the load. Easily connects two ropes together, and comes undone easy enough when you need it to, unlike if you just used two square knots.

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4. Clove Hitch. Quickly and easily tie the end of a rope to a circular object like a pole or tree. Goes on easy, comes off easy.

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5. Butterfly. Make a non sliding loop anywhere in the middle of a rope. Don’t load the rope too hard though, this knot can be tough to undo.

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6. Spike hitch, similar to butterfly, but more likely to slide, tightens like a noose on whatever you loop through it under load, but has a wide variety of uses that become more apparent the more you play with rope and knots. Fun fact, this knot is easy to learn, because it’s the basis for the Bowline and truckers hitch.

There’s definitely more knots to learn, and others will have opinions on which ones are the best. But these are my favorites. Just learning the first two will be extremely helpful to you.

Edit: wow that formatting really got away from me. I’m on mobile, so I’m leaving it, sorry

Upvoting for visibility, but this seems insane and impossible to me. When I take a cold shower, I can feel the water stealing the heat from my back, because it’s warmer when it hits my legs. It’s crazy.

It’s definitely taking heat away, for me, and I would die if I tried to take a hot shower on a hot day.

I start with a warm shower, like normal, then slowly turn it down until it’s nice and cool, almost cold. But not ice cold. Feel way better afterwards.

Is this different from !localllama@sh.itjust.works?

That community is quite active already, and helped me get up and running and interested in local LLMs.

It’s also much faster

Edit: you said that already lol sorry

Wiztree and Treesize are both much faster.

Windirstat is still relevant… But slow.

Oh! Lol I see the confusion. I meant I’m leaving the typo. I’m on my phone for 90% of Lemmy stuff. My phone autocorrected distros to Doritos. It was funny so I left it 😅

Sorry lol

Howdy! Hmmm, not sure I understand the first question. What put me off? So far I really like Bluefin. Most of my Linux experience prior to this was with Ubuntu, I’ve been tinkering with it since it’s second or third release. I also played with some lightweight Xfce based distros for a bit, I think it was the original damnsmalllinux?

At any rate, I daily drove Ubuntu for a year or so, every few years. I always faded away for various reasons, ending up back on Windows.

I’ve always had some flavor of Debian on a spare machine laying around somewhere though. My extremely unimpressive home server has always ran Ubuntu.

I toyed with arch on an old Chromebook, but that wasn’t for me at all.

I got a steam deck when they first came out, and that reinvigorated my desire to play with Linux on the desktop. But that still didn’t push me over the edge into installing it on my main machine.

I bought a framework 13, my first brand new laptop… Ever. Always went used or hand me downs. I decided it was time, I’m ready to go full Linux. I’m sick of all this win 11 crap.

So I did a lot of research, asked some questions around here, and ended up on bluefin. My main desire was stability. I’m not afraid of poking around in the command line, I’m fairly comfortable there for basic stuff. But my installs always seem to slowly acquire and accumulate… Issues. As I use them. Little things that build up, little issues that become show stoppers. I’ve never successfully (as in, without any issues at all) upgraded from one version of Ubuntu to the next.

Maybe that’s all Ubuntu’s fault? (I don’t care for it anymore, it’s not like it used to be) Or maybe it’s just a Linux thing? Or maybe I’m just more destructive than I realize?

At any rate, atomic/immutable seemed like the way to go for me. The second I heard about it, I was skeptical, but the more I thought about it, the more it seemed like it would solve my issues.

The core is stable, and unless I purposely dig into it, it’ll stay stable. Theoretically. Flat packs can come and go, but when I need my machine for something, it’ll be there and waiting.

I’ve only had it for a couple months now, and so far I love it. Recently I had to install zoom on it, there’s a flatpak. It’s… A little buggy, in some weird ways. Sluggish at times… But stable enough for what I need.

Most recently I installed OBS flatpak so I could screen record zoom. I expected issues, but I only had one tiny one, and a quick Google had me change one setting, and I was off. No issues. Felt good.

I’m running gimp and audacity, rythmbox, and others I can’t think of. So far so good.

I AM having a reoccurring issue with Firefox, suddenly it will crash every new tab I open until I restart it. But I haven’t looked into that yet, been too busy. That’s pretty annoying when it happens.

And yes I meant distro boxes, the one that basically installs a simultaneous version of another distro, and it shares your home folder? Works pretty well for what I need thus far, which was just to run git to compile some project files.

But I’m also running boxes, the VM. I have a couple highly specific, and therefore identifying so I won’t be sharing them here, windows apps that I need. One can’t run in proton, the other is connected to a delicate shared database I’d rather not corrupt, so I’m just doing what I have to do. At the end of the day, a computer is a tool, and I’m gonna do what I gotta do to do what I gotta do. But when I can ditch windows completely, I will.

Sorry for the wall of text, hopefully that answers your questions 😅

Edit: oh one last thing. I do wish I had gone with a kde variant. I recently learned that you can still do some of the compiz window management tricks in plain kde. I miss those.

I, too, am experimenting with immutable Doritos.

I’m running Bluefin, so far I’m quite pleased. Anything needing deeper access or only available in package form, I’ve been able to run in boxes.

Edit: I’m leaving it

Used to use a double edge razor from the 1960s, I still have it. Gillette Slim.

I just use a modern DE instead, 2015 I think. Feather AS-D2.

Both of them will probably outlast me. Especially the Feather, even though it’s newer and therefore theoretically made with less care, it was made in Japan, and it’s entirely stainless steel, not pot metal. Very strong. You’d need to run it over with a truck to break it.

If cared for, nothing is stopping the Gillette from going another 60 years either.

I’ve definitely pulled my hair out with docker too. Banged my head against the wall for a couple days before finally giving up.

I’m not ridiculously tech savvy, but I’ve tinkered with Linux since I was young, daily drive it on my laptop. I’m not afraid of the command line, and I’m smart enough to search for help and guides when I need it.

But something about docker just breaks my brain. Maybe I’m too old and there’s too much abstract thought required, I don’t know. But I can’t figure it out.

They did not nest properly on boost. But I guess that’s not surprising, we only just recently got them at all

Wait, is packagespend included in totalspend? Or do you have to combine them to get the real total?