I can’t root my phone because I don’t have an image for it (Moto G73) although I’d like to, but for some reason my banking app thinks it’s rooted and refuses to work. This happened just after I updated it, it wasn’t happening before.

Edit: I’m regretting not getting the Motorola Edge 40 Neo, which also costs £250, but is slightly better in multiple ways, and seems like it has better root support.

  • Skull giver
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    4 months ago

    If you didn’t root your phone, but multiple root detection apps go off (don’t just try one), there’s a good chance some piece of malware managed to root your phone. This is exactly the scenario banking apps include root detection kits for. It could be a false positive, but this certainly warrants further investigation.

    If other apps also indicate root access (i.e. antivirus apps), it’s probably best to restore factory settings and hope this clears up the infection. If it doesn’t, you’ll need to restore the entire system from a factory image (if that’s possible in the first place) and hope your phone doesn’t get infected again.

    I would advice installing multiple antivirus apps and having them scan your phone. If they also tell you you’ve been rooted, I would trust them to tell the truth. If they don’t report root access, but do report a bunch of viruses, the virus may have found a way to evade root detection by AV and may be installing weird apps in exchange for money from shitty ad fraud companies. If none of them are throwing up any warnings and only this specific app is complaining, you might want to wait a while and see if it goes away; if could just be a bug in your banking app.

    If you can’t clear the infection, I’m afraid your phone is rootkitted. In that case, I would recommend you not to use it for anything important. To prevent your phone becoming part of a botnet, you might need to remove your SIM, not enter your WiFi credentials after the next factory reset, and consider leaving it off entirely. If you start needing to enter more and more CAPTCHAs to enter websites, that can be a sign of some kind of infection on your network. If you’ve noticed something like that recently, it may be connected.

    Your phone was last updated almost a year ago, so if you were infected, it may just be a matter of time before you’re infected again. Edit: I was wrong, it’ll receive security updates until early 2026. Staying away from pirated apps and apps from sketchy sources may help prevent reinfection.

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        4 months ago

        Hmm, weird. That website wasn’t in any of my Google search results. I guess it’s because of their weird SPA design? It also seems to provide security update information from before the phone was released? Your link just provides a bunch of details about CVEs for me.

        But I looked again at the Motorola site and it does appear the phone receives updates up until 2026, so you’re absolutely right. Motorola should really publish this data somewhere easier to find, IMO.

    • JackGreenEarthOP
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      64 months ago

      Hypatia, which is the only antivirus I could find on F-Droid, didn’t return any negative results. It would be helpful to be able to monitor my internet and what connections my phone is making, but all I have is simple net monitor, which can tell me the speed and nothing else. I can see there’s background network activity, but no way to tell if it’s legitimate (for something like syncthing) or malicious.

      • Skull giver
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        154 months ago

        An app with root access can easily bypass the statistics gathered by these apps, unless those apps are run as root.

        I don’t know Hypathia, I’d suggest grabbing something from the Play Store (through Aurora, if you must).

        If you degoogled your phone through a different ROM, the app is probably triggering on the fact you’re running with an unlocked bootloader rather than just root access.

        • JackGreenEarthOP
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          64 months ago

          Im not running with a different ROM, but I did unlock the bootloader in case I did ever find a way to root my phone/install a custom ROM, I wouldn’t lose my data.

          • eatham 🇭🇲
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            94 months ago

            That would trigger it probably, they just couldn’t be bothered making 2 error messages

          • fmstrat
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            74 months ago

            This is your problem. Big ROM makers typically have a list of banking apps they work with. Could also happen if you don’t have Play Services.

          • @ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
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            34 months ago

            That would probably do it. Now you’re kind of out of luck because without root you can’t hide that you unlocked your bootloader, so you’d have to either get root or not use the app or restore to stock locked bootloader.