Says “Please type in the domain into the input field below that will be used for Nextcloud in order to create a new AIO instance.”
I dont wanna unnecessarily spend money
It can be an ip address, if you have a static ip. If you’re planning to host this on the open internet and have a dynamic ip (home internet is most likely for this), or static and don’t want to pay for a top level domain you can use a service like noip.com for a free address like “test.ddns.net”
You can also change this after the initial setup in Nextcloud’s config.php as well as as additional domain names/ip addresses that can reach the server.
alright then i think imma setup with a free one and then buy one, its only $10 a year
thank u :)
A .ovh domain is more like $3 a year. That’s what I’m using.
and just to get this right, if i want to acess it outside of my lan, i cant use my ip? i dont think my ip changes, has been the same as long as i remember
Yes you can use your ip, a domain name is just way easier to remember! :-)
so then do I just put in my IP into that field? and I’m guessing this can just changed later? I’d like to finish setup without spending money, and get a domain later
Just don’t mix up public and private IP. You cant use private IP outside of your LAN if you want to access it when you on the go.
You can purchase one, or as a first step you can use duckdns.org which is entirely free! Then when you think you want your own domain name you could just switch :-)
Can’t it just work locally with a locally assigned IP?
Yes it can
Hi,
What is the reason you do not want a domain? it is not that DNS-domains are that expensive these days. The cheapest option I found is .ovh (which is one of the major cloud-providers in France), which is 3 euro / year (+VAT). You can then put as much hosts or subdomains under it, and it supports dynamic IP.
Agreed, .ovh is not the most “professional” looking domain, but it depends on what you want to do. If your goal is simply to have something for yourself / family / friends, then this is good enough.
BTW. Having your own domain for a nextcloud instance has additional advances: you can get a real https/tls certificate from letsencrypt, and -if you put a reverse proxy in front of your NC- it shields you from people who just scan the complete IP-space of the internet but who do not know your domain.
didnt want one bc i gotta pay, but its fine, and especially since i can get those certificates
Hi,
Good idea!
And once you have you domainname, you can do the following:
- set up a reverse reverse proxy (apache, nginx) in front of nextcloud
- in the configuration of apache/bginx use virtual hosts.
- make sure that the default virtualhost (in apache, that is the the one that does not have “ServerName”) first in the configuration. Point that to a local website with just an empty directory
- then, AFTER the default virtual host, add the reverse-proxy configuration of your nextcloud instance.
What this does, is that if somebody addresses your website with a URL that does not contain the exact hostname of your nextcloud, the webquery will go to the empty website and simply return a 404. A hacker who does a webrequest to “https://your-ip-address/login” will just get a “404 not found” and not reach your nextcloud instance.
This keeps people who just scan the internet for vulnerable systems and try out all kind of URLs to try to get in out of your nextcloud.
Of course, this only works if you keep the full hostname of your instance to yourself and do not post it somewhere (including social media, mailing-lists, …)
Good luck with your nextcloud server
You can also use Tailscale Tunnel which will give you an subdomain to access for free.
Or full hardcore and use Tor
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domain. Completely free with additional privacy.Depending on what you are trying to do, not necessarily. NextCloud itself doesn’t really care, as far as I know, as long as it’s address doesn’t change. AIO on the other hand is setup in such a way that it needs a resolvable domain name and a valid certificate for https.
This could be done by spinning up your own certificate authority and dns server, but that is a lot of extra work and would be local network access only.
Another way would be to use a free domain and a free certificate from let’s encrypt. The downside here is that the domain authority could yank your domain at any time, for any reason (as happened to all of the free .ml domains recently). At which point your certificate would also stop working resulting in a situation where you may have to nuke and pave.
If you want to be local access only, I would pick an install path other than AIO. If you want to be able to access NextCloud remotely, purchase a domain name.
A VPN, such as TailScale would be considered local network in this situation.
Plenty of free hostname providers. I use Dynu
You don’t need to especially not in your local network, but if you want to expose it to the internet then it would definitely make sense since you need a domain in order to use SSL encryption.
Don’t go with AIO then
You can use this with tailscale or local only.
https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/nextcloud/
version: “2.1” services: nextcloud: image: lscr.io/linuxserver/nextcloud:latest container_name: nextcloud environment: - PUID=1000 - PGID=1000 - TZ=Etc/UTC volumes: - /path/to/appdata:/config - /path/to/data:/data ports: - 443:443 restart: unless-stopped
I’m not very familiar with NextCloud but you can use something like duckDns to direct traffic to your ip for free. Still an actual domain is a bit nicer if you want to share the URL.
Someone linked linuxserver.io docker image that you can use with local IP. Then if you want nextcloud for yourself or just a few family members, you can setup VPN and still use local IP from anywhere. No need to buy a domain, but you need some (free) service like duckdns that tracks your public IP so you can connect to your home network anytime. You can also set your custom domain using reverse proxy (made up domain name for local use, still not payed one), but you will have to allow it in your nextcloud config
Buying domain and setting up certificates is what Im going to do just to get rid of cert warnings in a browser on my phone
Just buy a real domain name from Cloudflare. They’re incredibly cheap dude. And you can use cloudflare’s dns stuff for free
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I’m not sure how nextcloud handles it, but as long as you can resolve the domain then you can put whatever you want.
You usually purchase a domain so it appears in the internet with the major DNS’, but if you only have the site in your internal network then you can put whatever you want as long as you update your internal DNS.Usually you can do this by manually updating the hosts file in your machines.
But a better way is to have something like PiHole, in which you can set your local DNS to resolve to your own IP.
After that the only annoyance are the SSL certificates which will be selfsigned since browsers show a warning but some services don’t have a way to work with them.for the nextcloud instance on my local LAN , I use the .local domain (multicast DNS). Just enable avahi on your server and you can use hostname.local on your network without having to deal with local DNS on your router and so on.
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