When those services are the only place with a license to provide the content you want, and your choice is to either suck it up and deal with their enshittification, or pirate the media you want… guess which option is the preferred choice?
My 300+ discs collection is akready 10 years old. No disc has failed yet. Most modern Blue-ray discs have a lifespan of up to 150 years. You’re probably thinking of writable discs that have a lower lifespan.
A digital backup of my own discs that I’ve purchased is not piracy in many countries. It’s legal to do that for personal use. Besides, there is no moral argument against it. You already payed for your time you’re going to enjoy it.
So buying one ticket to Disney world means I get to go back whenever I want right?
This totally depends on the ToS of the ticket issuer. It’s his right to decid that for you because he’s providing the product not you. What is the point you’re trying to make?
Perhaps not a popular approach, but I will simply watch less or not at all (mainly due to ads). There are other ways to entertain yourself. Throw away your TV!
They are not the only place. There are thousands of ways to legally obtain the content you want to enjoy. Blue-ray is one of countless others.
Not paying anything is worse in any case. The content and services will get even worse over time if more people start pirating stuff. The only way to change that is to vote with your wallet. Not paying does not entitle you to have an opinion and complain.
I wish there were. I have a huge DVD collection (2000+), and yet now it’s borderline impossible for me to find a DVD/Blueray for the stuff I want. Shops have shelves with maybe 100 blockbusters at most. It’s also impossible to buy the single product online, you can “rent” it, but you can’t buy it in a way that you can watch it with whatever device I want, with whatever tool I choose and without an internet connection.
This is my main beef with streaming services, you are permanently renting and therefore depending on the whim of the distributor (which in 90% of the cases now is also the maker).
Ah the false implication that if we don’t pay then things won’t get done. That’s a fallacy. People will always make content, they only stop if they need to work to survive and have no time. If they are paid for creating, they will create even more. If they are paid to create what they are told they won’t be able to create what they would want to.
When content is controlled and a company has the right to decide what and when and how something is created that’s when content and services get worse over time. Disney is a huge money making machine based on monopolistically controlling content, stories, characters… Disney’s services and products will only get worse no matter who pays or doesn’t, despite the love and effort put by the workers, because decisions are made based on corporate greed and maximising revenue. No one but Disney can create a marvel movie, if I would, I’d get sued into oblivion.
Netflix produced a movie called Hush. They made it and it was only distributed on Netflix. They removed it a while back, now the only way to watch it is to pirate it.
When you pirate a movie… no one loses anything. It’s also hard to steal from a store when they don’t stock the product in the first place. Your logic is flawed.
The argument for piracy is quite simple: conscience and morality.
The masses simply don’t care if a few pirates can’t reconcile it with their conscience that the respective provider acts like a piece of shit and treats its customers like shit under their shoe. Those providers just have to make sure that there aren’t too many pirates and therefore scrape the shit off the sides of their shoes from time to time.
All the other arguments are tangible. But they are often already essentially solved.
There are tons of arguments for piracy, the simplest ones being region locks, deplatformed episodes, and censorships.
These are all arguments against the corresponding service. I don’t hear an argument for piracy.
When those services are the only place with a license to provide the content you want, and your choice is to either suck it up and deal with their enshittification, or pirate the media you want… guess which option is the preferred choice?
Don’t forget about media you already bought being limited, deauthenticated, or removed completely.
By 10 year old blue-ray collection is doing just fine.
Blu-ray disks might last from 5 to 20 years, depending on quality. You’d better start backing them up if you care about your collection.
Oh, wait… that also counts as piracy, apparently. Tough luck, I suppose. 🤷♂️
My 300+ discs collection is akready 10 years old. No disc has failed yet. Most modern Blue-ray discs have a lifespan of up to 150 years. You’re probably thinking of writable discs that have a lower lifespan.
A digital backup of my own discs that I’ve purchased is not piracy in many countries. It’s legal to do that for personal use. Besides, there is no moral argument against it. You already payed for your time you’re going to enjoy it.
So buying one ticket to Disney world means I get to go back whenever I want right?
Do you not realize you just gave a justification for piracy?
Do you care about moral reasoning or just what is legal where you currently are?
This totally depends on the ToS of the ticket issuer. It’s his right to decid that for you because he’s providing the product not you. What is the point you’re trying to make?
Perhaps not a popular approach, but I will simply watch less or not at all (mainly due to ads). There are other ways to entertain yourself. Throw away your TV!
Torrents have no ads. And better quality. And are easier to find, watch, download, and archive. Much more convenient in every way.
Haven’t watched TV in over a decade either. Or seen an ad. Still watch any show or movie I want to.
As Gabe Newell put it (and demonstrated with Steam), piracy is a service problem.
They are not the only place. There are thousands of ways to legally obtain the content you want to enjoy. Blue-ray is one of countless others.
Not paying anything is worse in any case. The content and services will get even worse over time if more people start pirating stuff. The only way to change that is to vote with your wallet. Not paying does not entitle you to have an opinion and complain.
Not everything is on physical media.
No, free will entitles that.
I wish there were. I have a huge DVD collection (2000+), and yet now it’s borderline impossible for me to find a DVD/Blueray for the stuff I want. Shops have shelves with maybe 100 blockbusters at most. It’s also impossible to buy the single product online, you can “rent” it, but you can’t buy it in a way that you can watch it with whatever device I want, with whatever tool I choose and without an internet connection.
This is my main beef with streaming services, you are permanently renting and therefore depending on the whim of the distributor (which in 90% of the cases now is also the maker).
You can find Blue-rays to buy online of pretty much every movie in existance. 99% of them have all the extras too like documentation and interviews.
It depends on location. Getting a disc shipped from the other side of the world, paying 20 bucks + shipping for each movie in not sustainable.
Ah the false implication that if we don’t pay then things won’t get done. That’s a fallacy. People will always make content, they only stop if they need to work to survive and have no time. If they are paid for creating, they will create even more. If they are paid to create what they are told they won’t be able to create what they would want to.
When content is controlled and a company has the right to decide what and when and how something is created that’s when content and services get worse over time. Disney is a huge money making machine based on monopolistically controlling content, stories, characters… Disney’s services and products will only get worse no matter who pays or doesn’t, despite the love and effort put by the workers, because decisions are made based on corporate greed and maximising revenue. No one but Disney can create a marvel movie, if I would, I’d get sued into oblivion.
Netflix produced a movie called Hush. They made it and it was only distributed on Netflix. They removed it a while back, now the only way to watch it is to pirate it.
These are all arguments against the corresponding service. I don’t hear an argument for piracy.
You can’t just say thats not a reason. That is the reason they pirated a movie.
I was just trying to be funny with that response because the other guy, the one I copied from, was being so unreasonable.
I sure as hell don’t feel bad pirating things when I literally have no way of getting it legally.
Sometimes we don’t hear something, not because it doesn’t exist… but because we choose to deny its existence.
Just because you don’t believe its there doesn’t mean it isn’t.
It’s not about belief. It’s just pure logic in argumentation. There is just no conclusion here.
It’s like robbing a store because you didn’t like its shelf layout.
All of the arguments I read here are justifications. Nobody is actually trying to make a point here. They just want to enjoy free content.
When you rob a store, the store loses something.
When you pirate a movie… no one loses anything. It’s also hard to steal from a store when they don’t stock the product in the first place. Your logic is flawed.
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The argument for piracy is quite simple: conscience and morality.
The masses simply don’t care if a few pirates can’t reconcile it with their conscience that the respective provider acts like a piece of shit and treats its customers like shit under their shoe. Those providers just have to make sure that there aren’t too many pirates and therefore scrape the shit off the sides of their shoes from time to time.
All the other arguments are tangible. But they are often already essentially solved.