Mastodon has been around since 2016 and has 804k MAU.

The platform has 57 third party apps.

The platform is decentralized and has community ran servers.

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    2 hours ago

    Why is anyone usi5any of them? They’re all clogged toilets overflowing the same shit onto the flower.

  • Leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 hours ago

    The people leaving Twitter right now want Twitter minus Elon. That’s Bluesky. They’ve heard a couple of their Twitter follows mention it and they’ve gone to their app store where they find an app called Bluesky, install it and easily join and start using it. Once they do they are finding it pretty straightforward to find people they used to follow on Twitter.

    That’s all people want.

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    11 hours ago

    It’s the path of least resistance to achieve Musklessness. The second two of the positives you listed are actually negatives to the average Joe. Choice paralysis, overwhelming number of apps and servers, these are things that put people off even trying, especially if there are easier-to-use alternatives that are familiar and instant.

    Mastodon is great, but it’s not quite there yet in terms of convenience. Too much copying and pasting and clicking through to different instances in order to read old posts etc. It needs to be more cohesive in a way that doesn’t require constantly leaving your timeline or going into the settings.

    It’s also the case that the Twitter diaspora who are famous tend to choose BlueSky, and that brings a lot of people along with them.

    And it’s also the case that Mastodon doesn’t have much of a marketing campaign outside of word-of-mouth, whereas BlueSky does.

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    Average users do not even remotely care about federated software and/or decentralisation. That is techno-babble to them and their eyes will glaze over if you try to market that to them.

    That being said: Mastodon does a shit job at explaining how it works, how to use it, and what its advantages are. The Joinmastodon landing page just assumes you already know how a fair bit about instances work and what federated software is and does a very poor job explaining it. And even then, most users won’t care either way. They just want to click a Join button and be done.

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      That’s exactly what drove me into seeking out Lemmy instead. I hopped on Mastodon and it made me feel like I was being coralled into following some niche hobby forum exclusively, and I wasn’t into that. It didn’t explain that the instance itself was largely irrelevant and that the rest of the platform would open up to me after choosing one.

      Lemmy still had a learning curve, but having experience with reddit I was able to pick it up easily enough.

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    15 hours ago

    You have to understand we are not normal users. Anyone even remotely interested in federated software are not normal users.

    Bluesky may not have 57 third party apps and that’s why people are flocking to it. It’s easy. The signup process through the app involved no selecting of servers, no understanding of what it actually is under the hood, and users are greeted by a default algorithm that feels very much like old Twitter before Musk.

    Basically, regular users do not care about the fediverse and just want a competent and polished app and site experience.

  • ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca
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    11 hours ago

    It’s just easier. I have both but I almost never use Mastodon anymore. Federation there doesn’t seem to work right. I didn’t know what an instance was so I joined mastodon.social. Finding and following people in the app doesn’t always seem to work right if they’re on another instance. Doing it in a browser is even more painful.

    The people I liked to follow and interact with on X, many tried Mastodon and abandoned it, and many more are now on Bluesky. This creates momentum to “follow the crowd” as it were.

    Additionally, you only have one chance to make a first impression. A lot of us tried Mastodon earlier and it wasn’t ready. Bluesky started as invite-only, which drummed up interest before catching this zeitgeist of people leaving X.

    Lastly, and maybe it’s just me, but the font sizing on the official Mastodon app on Android is generally too small and can’t be changed. Bluesky allows me to change it and make it more comfortable to use.

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    16 hours ago

    We’ve had this exact conversation in this community two months ago already, in case you want to back read the comments from back then. Nothing significant has changed

    To paraphrase my opinion from back then:

    • Easier onboarding, and a familiar, easier UX
    • customizable feeds you can subscribe to + starterpacks instantly give you full timelines and people to follow (and followers, if you’re in many starter packs)
    • better discoverability, and therefore higher engagement
    • stacking moderation and excellent security features (e.g. detachable quote boosts, “the nuclear block”)
    • many users who tried Mastodon first had bad experiences with “HOA”-like behavior and over-enthusiastic mods
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    15 hours ago

    I’ve got an idea as to why.

    I went to mastodon.social and see a Linux meme, some heavy political commentary, and a bunch of posts about mastodon being better than Twitter.

    I then went to bluesky.app and see some political riffing, cute animals, a comic, some jokes, a company, and even Don Lemon.

    The average person checking them both out for the first time, mastodon is nerd shit and Bluesky is normal shit.

  • Adam@doomscroll.n8e.dev
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    16 hours ago

    I’m dabbling in Bluesky atm. Having run my own Masto server for over a year at this point. Here’s things I’ve found that Bluesky does just plain better - mostly cause it’s not beholden to the whims of the ActivityPub protocol.

    • Shows me all replies to any post I happen to come across.
    • Lets me see all posts about things I happen to search/look for, including hashtags.
    • I don’t have to worry about being unable to see content I haven’t personally blocked (not so much of an issue on a small/single server like mine though).
    • I can repost things (not actually too bothered with this one but many people want it).
    • I can set per post reply permissions to a very granular level (no-one, mentioned, followers, specific followers)
    • It handles video in a way that works i.e. I can post them, and people can watch them with minimal buffering/waiting.
    • Gives me access to community built collections/algorithms that expose the content I want to see.
    • It defaults to providing an additional feed driven by what the people I’m following are liking/interacting with.
    • Finally, a big one for new users, it provided a default feed of content when I first logged in so that I had something to look at.

    The first two are huge on a small/single user server. By default we get nothing, following a single account will get us the content of just that account and the replies that they happen to reply to. A post may get 200 replies, but unless I go looking on the original server I will see a fraction of that. Technical solutions exist to help with this but the Fediverse’s penchant for privacy and control (quite rightly) limits the effectiveness (Fedifetcher, GetMoarFedi).

    3 is something most people won’t think about. But if they become aware they’re not seeing something they thought they’d be able to they then have to deep dive into who’s defederating who and why.

    Most all the other points just make the whole thing a much more seamless experience for your average user. Bootstrapping a list of people to follow on a small server is hard (I’d absolutely recommend creating a Fediverse account somewhere large first to build up some sort of list before migrating)

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    18 hours ago

    Because it pretends to be different to the centralised corporate social media platforms, whilst giving the cohesive experience of a centralised platform

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    11 hours ago

    You want the bullshit “Mastodon is too complicated and hard to use!” answer or the real answer?

    BlueSky has rich people behind it.

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    It’s shiny, they advertise, put in a money to spread the word. And the onboarding process probably is way easier?! Also back when Mastodon was in the media, it wasn’t yet the right time. Now, especially with Musk, it is. And the attention is on Bluesky since that is newer and what’s hyped right now.

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        I wouldn’t know, I have a lot of adblockers etc. But it gets to me via word of mouth. And it’s been in the media a lot this year. Due to their business decisions, new approach, novelty… That’s something they did very well. They also took care building some hype and anticipation with their invite-only period. Mastodon has also been in the news. But that was yesterday’s news and I suppose everyone forgets yesterday’s news.

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    18 hours ago

    Bluesky allows me to use my domain as my identity and make my own moderation decisions without having to run my own instance.

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      17 hours ago

      I was really impressed by this feature when I signed up recently! It baffles me a little bit to see newspapers and things not taking advantage of it.

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    16 hours ago

    Every platform and app I’ve seen does a piss poor job of explaining what federation is and how to sign up. “Wtf is mastodon.social?, Why is this one in German?, Why can’t I login after signing up?” New users just get confused and give up.