• dan1101@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    This seems like such a nothing case. Steam is optional. It’s optional for publishers to use, it’s optional for users to install. Steam provides many many benefits for even free games or games not purchased on the Steam store.

    Any publisher can publish their game on their own site, on other stores, on physical media. Even though Steam is dominant, you can buy games somewhere else as easily as you can download and install Steam itself.

    I hope this case gets thrown out.

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      2 months ago

      You can also use steam as a distribution platform completely free of the 30% cut by selling steam keys through your own site. Steam specifically gives developers unlimited free steam keys and games no cut from the sale of said keys. And it’s not even a work around, it is intentional.

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        2 months ago

        Indeed, the only limitation is to not sell the keys for less than Steam sell them for.

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          2 months ago

          Technically, you can sell Steam Keys for less. But if you sell Steam Keys somewhere else for cheaper, you need to plan giving Steam Customers the same opportunity at some point.

          Steam Key Rules and Guidelines https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys

          I bought Steam Keys for cheaper in different stores, like Humble Bundle. I also got Steam Keys for free from devs/publisher (events, giveaway, press).

          And If you don’t mind Steam Keys, you can buy games from GOG or Epic and the price is not always the same as Steam.

          You can compare prices in “is there any deal”, they only allow authorized vendors. https://isthereanydeal.com/game/shadows-of-doubt/info/ You can see how the base price of Steam Keys are very similar, but the discount changes from vendors.

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            2 months ago

            Technically, you can sell Steam Keys for less. But if you sell Steam Keys somewhere else for cheaper, you need to plan giving Steam Customers the same opportunity at some point.

            True, but I would consider that as technically the same as my statement.

            • Nils@lemmy.ca
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              2 months ago

              I agree, and I am glad we are on the same page.

              I just think it is important to highlight missing key-points, that people often misunderstand and can misconstrue, like the devs and lawyers from the now class action from the post. So it is important to clarify to prevent further misinformation.

              • Steam does not care how much you sell keys for different platforms(e.g. GOG, Epic), just Steam Keys (i.e. keys for the Steam platform).
              • And when you sell Steam Keys in different stores, you need to give Steam Store Customers comparable, but not necessarily at the same time or same price.

              If you check the historical low on “is there any deal”, often stores have games with historical low lower than Steam’s historical low. From what I saw, the prices are usually around 10%~12% lower.

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      2 months ago

      How the fuck is it optional? You mean like in the sense I don’t need games to live, I assume? Because it’s not optional otherwise.

      • dan1101@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        It’s optional for publisher to put their games on Steam. Games like Starsector seem to do ok not on Steam. Helps if the game is really good.