I mean, that’s sort of how it’s acceptable at all, right? It’s almost entirely about the fact that it’s like accepted to lust after them or hit on them and the rest that would actually get them busted is not explicitly shown, but there’s enough there for you to understand that it’s gross.
And I love Japanese games, but even still, currently I’m playing Apollo Justice Ace Attorney, and there are scenes where characters comment on the beauty and attractiveness of Trucy (with no reprimanding from any other character), a 15 year old girl explicitly mentioned to not even be in high school yet.
That’s not explicit, her character design isn’t sexy, but the behavior of much older men lusting after a pre-high schooler is totally normalized. I think that’s more of what you’ll see commonly.
Not 13 any more. It’s officially 16 now, and that old age of 13 never applied to anyone because every prefecture had a prefectural age of consent set at 16, and the old, national age of consent WAS 13 so no prefecture could go below that. There was NO WHERE in Japan where it was actually legal to have sex with a 13 year old because no prefecture allowed it.
There aren’t even correct anymore. Japan changed their national age of consent to 16, and it was functionally never as low as 13 because each prefecture had it set at 16 before that. The old, national age of consent was so no prefecture could ever go below that age.
AoC is not the same as morally appropriate. I am willing to bet that most of Japan would not be ok with a 65 year old man pursuing a 15 year old.
Also prefectures have different ages of consent just like US states do so in much of Japan you really can’t have sex with a 13 year old even if that is the age of consent.
I can read Japanese, so I can check the Japanese version and see what age they used there. Just one example is fine.
I know that there is lolicon in Japan, but this doesn’t get released in the west, nor is it intended for a western audience.
I’m talking about a game published with western audience in mind, that has a scene involving a minor that you consider to be worse than an implicit sex scene with a bear.
The games that tend to get criticism are games like the dead or alive xtreme volleyball series. Do you think those games deserve the criticism they get while bg3 doesn’t?
I also can speak and read Japanese because I’ve lived here for over 20 years. There are many games that aren’t visual novels that have had characters specially aged up for their western releases.
And stop moving the goalposts. The article was clearly talking about games that have been released in the west, originally intended to be or no.
Rapelay is just straight up porn and wasnt even intended to reach the west, and any western equivalent would get the same treatment because rape porn and lolicon altogether is illegal in the west. I don’t think anyone is upset about that game being banned or censored. It is not even being distributed in Japan anymore.
But westerners aren’t complaining about this game. They are complaining that the female characters wear too skimpy outfits or that anime characters look too young in Japanese games like resident evil.
Was it a bear sex scene in that a player character has sex with a non sophont bear, or was it a bear sex scene where a player character has sex with a sophont druid in the shape of a bear. These are so incredibly different things that it needs to be stated before I can form an opinion.
Oh alright. So completely fine then, from the sounds of it. That being the case im realizing a lot of people don’t actually understand consent or why bestiality is bad.
Well if you want to manufacture outrage and put zero further thought into your philosophies and convictions that is certainly one of the first takes you might stumble across.
I mean, you’re complaining about bestiality in a game and then don’t care about consent? A strange take to be sure.
I am going to just leave this here. It’s a rough link just as a warning as it discusses a Japanese game where raping a 12 year old is part of the game.
Tldr :
Japanese make game with sexual content.
Western journalists: “disgusting. This needs to be censored.”
Japanese gamers: “no”
Europeans make game with sexual content.
Japanese gamers: “hypocritical much?”
Western journalists: “OMG, stop making a big deal out of nudity in games. Isn’t it time we accept it?”
Japanese make game with sexual content that sexualizes minors. You left that part out.
I also left out the part where the western journalist says the bear bestiality scene “wasn’t that bad. It was pretty tame”
Yeah, that scene that the game cuts away from and doesn’t show you. Yup, that’s totes the same thing.
Name one Japanese game released in the west that had an explicit sex scene with a minor.
I mean, that’s sort of how it’s acceptable at all, right? It’s almost entirely about the fact that it’s like accepted to lust after them or hit on them and the rest that would actually get them busted is not explicitly shown, but there’s enough there for you to understand that it’s gross.
And I love Japanese games, but even still, currently I’m playing Apollo Justice Ace Attorney, and there are scenes where characters comment on the beauty and attractiveness of Trucy (with no reprimanding from any other character), a 15 year old girl explicitly mentioned to not even be in high school yet.
That’s not explicit, her character design isn’t sexy, but the behavior of much older men lusting after a pre-high schooler is totally normalized. I think that’s more of what you’ll see commonly.
Check age of consent in Japan please…
Not 13 any more. It’s officially 16 now, and that old age of 13 never applied to anyone because every prefecture had a prefectural age of consent set at 16, and the old, national age of consent WAS 13 so no prefecture could go below that. There was NO WHERE in Japan where it was actually legal to have sex with a 13 year old because no prefecture allowed it.
Get a new talking point.
And most of the world think that it’s too young.
Just because something is allowed by law in one country doesn’t invalidate arguments about it being immoral.
Having sex with animals is “allowed” (by not being illegal) in many countries. I would still argue that it is immoral.
There aren’t even correct anymore. Japan changed their national age of consent to 16, and it was functionally never as low as 13 because each prefecture had it set at 16 before that. The old, national age of consent was so no prefecture could ever go below that age.
16 country-wise and 18 in the prefecture I live in.
AoC is not the same as morally appropriate. I am willing to bet that most of Japan would not be ok with a 65 year old man pursuing a 15 year old.
Also prefectures have different ages of consent just like US states do so in much of Japan you really can’t have sex with a 13 year old even if that is the age of consent.
They edit it to age them up to be technically legal. C’mon, don’t play stupid.
Are you talking about visual novels?
I can read Japanese, so I can check the Japanese version and see what age they used there. Just one example is fine.
I know that there is lolicon in Japan, but this doesn’t get released in the west, nor is it intended for a western audience.
I’m talking about a game published with western audience in mind, that has a scene involving a minor that you consider to be worse than an implicit sex scene with a bear.
The games that tend to get criticism are games like the dead or alive xtreme volleyball series. Do you think those games deserve the criticism they get while bg3 doesn’t?
I also can speak and read Japanese because I’ve lived here for over 20 years. There are many games that aren’t visual novels that have had characters specially aged up for their western releases.
And stop moving the goalposts. The article was clearly talking about games that have been released in the west, originally intended to be or no.
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Does it have to be released here? RapeLay had you rape a 12 year old.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapeLay
You’ve posted that same link like 5 times now as a gotcha
Rapelay is just straight up porn and wasnt even intended to reach the west, and any western equivalent would get the same treatment because rape porn and lolicon altogether is illegal in the west. I don’t think anyone is upset about that game being banned or censored. It is not even being distributed in Japan anymore.
No it is a porn game that was designed by a Japanese company. There is a difference between westerners complaining about this and the nudity in BG3
But westerners aren’t complaining about this game. They are complaining that the female characters wear too skimpy outfits or that anime characters look too young in Japanese games like resident evil.
Maybe Rapelay?
Was it a bear sex scene in that a player character has sex with a non sophont bear, or was it a bear sex scene where a player character has sex with a sophont druid in the shape of a bear. These are so incredibly different things that it needs to be stated before I can form an opinion.
It’s with a druid in bear form, and you have the option to ask him to switch back into his regular form.
Oh alright. So completely fine then, from the sounds of it. That being the case im realizing a lot of people don’t actually understand consent or why bestiality is bad.
They both involve made up characters in a made up world, so in my opinion they are the same.
Well if you want to manufacture outrage and put zero further thought into your philosophies and convictions that is certainly one of the first takes you might stumble across.
I mean, you’re complaining about bestiality in a game and then don’t care about consent? A strange take to be sure.
Oh you’re one of those people that think fictional characters deserve human rights.
Also, no, I am not complaining about bestiality in a game. That is not the point I’m trying to make.
Oh so you’re just here to argue not actually engage in anything productive. Got it.
Do fell free to explain what your point actually is. Or don’t, you’re clearly just a contrarian.
Did you not get the joke about having sex with a bear was pretty tame
Or you know the one that has you rape a 12 year old.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapeLay
Hentai games are an entirely different level of fucked up.
Yes that game is fucked but that is one game out of millions and far from the norm. That’s just bad faith.
I am going to just leave this here. It’s a rough link just as a warning as it discusses a Japanese game where raping a 12 year old is part of the game.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RapeLay