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    2 days ago

    Okay. So I did a little research since I was truly curious.

    https://www.animals24-7.org/2019/10/14/pit-bulls-new-gene-study-shows-it-is-not-all-in-how-you-raise-them/*

    Boom. A genetic link between aggression and certain violent behaviors and pitbulls. 15% of their personality. Caused by an aggressive period of selectively breeding them for dogfights.

    And now I think we should breed pitbulls out of existence.

    @Empicorn@feddit.nl (is this how you @ a user?).

    1 source. That’s all it fucking takes. I don’t understand why people who spend so much time on the internet are so mid at arguing. 4 articles of AI slop aren’t going to convince anyone of shit. 2-3 other articles that don’t actually back up your point have the same issue. But you’re prancing all over this thread like you’re hot shit. The issues I mentioned in my previous comment still apply, but here’s a new source for you to use I guess, you’re welcome.

    And of course, I have to obligatorily state that no parallels to human behavior can be drawn from this. No, black people were not “bred for strength”. No, they are not inherently more aggressive. No, we should not just use eugenics to eliminate certain “races” because human races are a social construct (see above diagram). However, dogs work differently, it seems.

    *Edit: actually this source seems to be somewhat problematic since it seems to cover a dispraportionate amount of news related to pitbulls but that doesn’t make the study immediately wrong.

    Okay researching further I found another scientific article going in the opposite direction.

    However, our community sample of Pit Bull-type dogs showed they are not more aggressive or more likely to have a behavioral diagnosis than other dogs. This does not support reliance on breed-specific legislation to reduce dog bites to humans [23

    (Damn, I said I wouldn’t argue but now I seem to be arguing with myself. Don’t worry chat. Imma win.)

    Opens google scholar

    Oh shit. It doesn’t even mention the word pitbull. Investigating further, many of the claims that article makes, like the ones about certain dog breeds needing no/less training to do certain things, are just straight up unsourced and not mentioned in the study. wtf?!

    I am enraged that the article just straight up fucking lied to me and I fell for it. This is why I use google scholar and vet the studies myself, rather than using a search engine normally.

    But it seems like we are back to “pitbulls are products of their environments” again.

    On a miscellaneous note, google scholar seems to have really enshittified. It’s now attempting to show me normal news articles and blog posts, rather than exclusively scientific journals. Eugh.