And again, that should result in jail time for all of those executives and all employees that actually destroyed messages
JAIL THEM, JAIL THEM NOW, JAIL THEM LONG
This sort of shit behavior will never end and only get worse until we, instead of hand slapping, start jailing these fuckers.
Jail a bunch of CEO’s for breaking the law and watch how fast they start behaving.
This is why companies have data retention settings to automatically delete old emails and slack/teams/etc. and special processes a classifications to store those communications that relate to contracts and such.
This is why compliance frameworks have retention policies that combat the natural desire companies have to destroy their own records and logs. SOX retention rules are directly the result of realizing Enron only could be busted after their emails were recovered.
Twice in my career I’ve been at an org where the legal team decided to destroy all emails over a year old and then a year or two later had the same company revert that rule after deciding to go public and being forced by SOX audits to start retaining records again.
Google is a public company, so depending on how far back they deleted, they could be in hot water with the SEC. You know, in a world where the SEC actually still did their jobs
I was gonna say, the SEC may as well not exist now.
Along with every other safeguard designed to protect the people from corruption.
The sundowning rapist felon traitor’s handlers made sure of that.
Just use Signal. You may be in Pete Hegseth’s next message.
He still hasn’t added me to any chats. What should I do?
Did you say in your profile you’re a reporter? Ahha
Nationalize google and incarcerate their board.
Eh, you sure we want to give control of that shit to Trump and his people?
I’m not sure whether it could be worse.
It would be worse. They would use that access to target people.
My dear child… They are already doing this. Us and Israeli spooks already infiltrated all mega corps. Mega corps know and collaborate.
All of them are balls deep helping waffen IDF do a genocide…
They help ice gestapo to target people within the US…
These examples are merely what has been publicly documented.
Do you think anything is stopping them now? Why do you think these systems were built?
I mean they were built to make money, the fact that you can send them a national security letter is just a happy accident that keeps the NSA from having to run more datacenters.
I respectfully disagree. They were built for power and control from the start. Monestisation just paid for it and helped adoption.
I think you’ve got it backwards. Like the other person said, this shit was built to make money, the power and control came later. Said power and control also came partially from the money, since money is just power coupons, and they used that to buy up competitors and regulators alike to get to the state their in now.
Not everything is built with evil intentions. Quite frequently, evil corrupts otherwise benign institutions as they gain power to serve the ends of those already in power.
Yes, it’s a lot worse. The particular difference is that one of these organizations has the power to disappear you without consequence.
I know people like to hate on google, but google is actually like 3 companies in a trench coat.
They do highly valuable open source / open ecosystem work (I will say the chance of you indirectly using a google tool without knowing is over 90% now) and if the American government, a capitalist fascist government no less, gets their hands on it, we’re fucked
Not all of google is adsense or YouTube.
Are you kidding?? They are way more accountable now to Wall Street and what’s left of US federal regulators and still-useful regulators like the EU. If nationalized they would answer to no one.
I read this as “incinerate”. A principled, pragmatic opposition to the death penalty in any case I can think of is the only reason I would disapprove.
I’ve always wondered, is this illegal? Like obviously it is if they’ve already been subpoenaed or something.
Nah it’s illegal to deliberately destroy data to impede investigations. You don’t need to have an open investigation for that to be the case.
It remains legal to get rid of old files to free up space or if you genuinely believe they aren’t necessary, though, so you need to prove intent.
If there’s a subpeona or something, their destruction is itself a crime, but under this law, its the intent to defraud the courts that’s illegal, and that intent is always illegal.
The law exists specifically for this situation. Purging important business documents preemptively is clearly not OK.
Citation: https://legalclarity.org/18-u-s-c-1519-destruction-alteration-or-falsification-of-records/
It’s illegal if antitrust action is anticipated, according to the article. That said, I know that most places I’ve worked have had a document retention policy that called for automatic deletion of most documents after some time period, like a year.
It’s illegal if antitrust action is anticipated
That seems like something that would be difficult to prove.
Unless they’ve received notification to that effect. “Hey, y’all, we’re considering anti-trust so save that shit.”
