• Zorque@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    It’s always seemed like such a weak take to just say Batman is a rich guy punching bad guys and nothing else.

    He invests in infrastructure, supports the community, promotes people bettering themselves… it’s just not nearly as exciting as battling a Joker who’s sliced his own face off or a giant crocodile man or a guy who’s theme is kites.

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      1 year ago

      Idunno, I like the reverse better:

      Batman’s nuts. Like everybody else in Gotham. He’s pathologically obsessed with beating the crap out of criminals with his bare hands because he needs to emotionally. The fact that he’s saving the world is incidental.

      That actually makes his “no killing” rule make more sense. A person doing this for moral reasons would grapple with the continuous living trolley problem embodied by The Joker, and would likely eventually do what needs to be done. An otherwise-decent person feeding addiction to violence would draw a hard line in the sand that he will never ever cross no matter the cost. Which sounds more like Bats?

      It also makes his choice of weapons make more sense – tazers don’t satisfy him the way his fists do.

      Yes he might also do philanthropic things but that’s not what drives him.

      A hero driven by dark needs is way more interesting than a boring paragon of virtue.

      It also gives his emotional divide from Nightwing a more coherent moral centre than just “Nightwing didn’t like how Batman’s mean”.

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        Somewhere between (where he actually sits) is more interesting than both. He’s clearly dealing with emotional trauma, but that doesn’t mean he’s not also still human. And trying to be more so.

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          1 year ago

          We all got trauma. Trauma isn’t what makes Batman interesting. Obsession is. The maniacal motivation to make himself into the greatest DCU superhero by sheer force of will.

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        Both are interesting and both are generally how Batman is. It depends on the run. Sometimes he’s dark and grows into a paragon, and sometimes the reverse is true. Totally depends on the author.