I have an organ donor on my license. But I’m not trying to kill myself, I’m just following my heart.
It seems like fewer people in my generation have motorcycles because 1) we have less money (although you can save by replacing a car with one) than previous generations, and 2) the older generations constantly push the narrative that having a motorcycle is equivalent to having a death wish, which circles back to the point that they shouldn’t be spying on us all the time.
You’re taking a line and putting it on the road against planes.
Follow your heart all you want, my math teacher in high-school had a motorcycle. Broke his collar bone, fractured his skull, broke his leg and had road rash. Much like smoking cigarettes, you’re allowed to take your life into your own hands. Don’t convince yourself that you’re somehow doing otherwise.
You sound so paranoid about safety I get the feeling you literally live in a suit of bubble-wrap. If they wanted your finger wagging they’d have asked you for it
And you are talking like people who ride motorcycles have a 100% death toll. Which is demonstrably false.
I don’t ride them, I’m 29 morbidly obese and have a shit sense of balance. I just can’t stand people who try to spread fear based on personal trauma they experienced instead of being factual about the real dangers of the world.
What makes you think learning from someone else’s stupid decisions qualifies as trauma? Oh, this must not be a lesson you learned growing up.
When you see someone do something stupid you go “no, I’m ok”, and your life is better for it.
You wanna die young, or cripple yourself? Go for it, be my guest. Don’t delude yourself into thinking it isn’t on the table because “not everyone who rides motorcycles dies”.
What makes you think learning from someone else’s stupid decisions qualifies as trauma?
I don’t. I think someone you care about dying in a motorcycle accident counts as personal trauma.
When you see someone do something stupid you go “no, I’m ok”, and your life is better for it.
See, this is what I mean. Motorcycle riding isn’t an inherently stupid thing, or at least no more stupid than driving a car or riding a bike. There is inherent danger in all forms of transportation. I don’t see you railing against the people driving two ton land torpedoes that we call "cars’ and killing people on motorcycles or those who walk.
Don’t delude yourself into thinking it isn’t on the table because “not everyone who rides motorcycles dies”.
The only one who suggested it." isn’t on the table" is the strawman in your head
This is why I said you’ve got some personal trauma. You are insisting you don’t actually care about the safety of someone who you spent time out of your day to yell at for wanting to drive a motorcycle, then call anybody who says you are being excessive childish for not agreeing that motorcycles have a 100% injury and mortality rate and that the person who you supposedly don’t care about is doomed to end up like the teacher who supposedly isn’t a source of personal trauma for you
Edit to add: I’ll forgive your ad-homenins because it’s clear you need some therapy to overcome the death of that teacher you knew.
There’s significantly less chance of getting fucked for life if yiu actually wear proper safety gear. Doesn’t stop the danger of others, though. But it can lower damage.
I have an organ donor on my license. But I’m not trying to kill myself, I’m just following my heart.
It seems like fewer people in my generation have motorcycles because 1) we have less money (although you can save by replacing a car with one) than previous generations, and 2) the older generations constantly push the narrative that having a motorcycle is equivalent to having a death wish, which circles back to the point that they shouldn’t be spying on us all the time.
You’re taking a line and putting it on the road against planes.
Follow your heart all you want, my math teacher in high-school had a motorcycle. Broke his collar bone, fractured his skull, broke his leg and had road rash. Much like smoking cigarettes, you’re allowed to take your life into your own hands. Don’t convince yourself that you’re somehow doing otherwise.
I’m being as safe as I can. I’m ATGATT and I started on a beginner bike without much power.
Listen, again, you can do whatever you want.
Do not pretend it isn’t dangerous. This behavior will be what turns you into someone like my math teacher.
You sound so paranoid about safety I get the feeling you literally live in a suit of bubble-wrap. If they wanted your finger wagging they’d have asked you for it
Sure buddy, you’ll never die.
And you are talking like people who ride motorcycles have a 100% death toll. Which is demonstrably false.
I don’t ride them, I’m 29 morbidly obese and have a shit sense of balance. I just can’t stand people who try to spread fear based on personal trauma they experienced instead of being factual about the real dangers of the world.
Personal trauma?
What makes you think learning from someone else’s stupid decisions qualifies as trauma? Oh, this must not be a lesson you learned growing up.
When you see someone do something stupid you go “no, I’m ok”, and your life is better for it.
You wanna die young, or cripple yourself? Go for it, be my guest. Don’t delude yourself into thinking it isn’t on the table because “not everyone who rides motorcycles dies”.
Great logic there. Very big brained.
I don’t. I think someone you care about dying in a motorcycle accident counts as personal trauma.
See, this is what I mean. Motorcycle riding isn’t an inherently stupid thing, or at least no more stupid than driving a car or riding a bike. There is inherent danger in all forms of transportation. I don’t see you railing against the people driving two ton land torpedoes that we call "cars’ and killing people on motorcycles or those who walk.
The only one who suggested it." isn’t on the table" is the strawman in your head
This is why I said you’ve got some personal trauma. You are insisting you don’t actually care about the safety of someone who you spent time out of your day to yell at for wanting to drive a motorcycle, then call anybody who says you are being excessive childish for not agreeing that motorcycles have a 100% injury and mortality rate and that the person who you supposedly don’t care about is doomed to end up like the teacher who supposedly isn’t a source of personal trauma for you
Edit to add: I’ll forgive your ad-homenins because it’s clear you need some therapy to overcome the death of that teacher you knew.
The plural of anecdote isnt data. I’ve been riding for 45 years and I’m still here.
Data shows the vast majority of 2 vehicle motorcycle accidents are the fault of the other vehicle
Jesus christ, I don’t care what you risk your life doing.
Claiming that, somehow, riding isn’t dangerous or risky when it’s the other drivers on the road that are at fault is fucking brain damaged.
All it takes is one, and the rest of your life is fucked. I don’t give a shit what you decide is right for you. Genuinely.
There’s significantly less chance of getting fucked for life if yiu actually wear proper safety gear. Doesn’t stop the danger of others, though. But it can lower damage.
That’s great, I’m glad you make these choices for yourself.