• ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      I was surprised to learn the Chevy Bolt is 26k for the base model, and would only cost 19k after the federal credit.

    • fatboy93@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      The issue is that gor some reason nobody speaks in total cost of buying a car, not the car dealers not the banking institutions. They all talk about monthly payments and for some reason people can’t do basic math that $1000 for 60 months is a huge fucking amount.

  • BOMBS@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    11 months ago

    I went to the Ford site to look into their EVs earlier this week. Their site on EV info is so disorganized and unhelpful. Trying to figure out how much charging would cost and the logistics of long-distance travel is way too confusing. They’re even messing it up with a subscription plan to their in-network chargers.

    I suspect this is part of the reason people aren’t buying Ford EVs. Buying a car from a dealership is already too antagonized because we all know they’re trying to rip us off. To try to balance it out, shoppers try to gain as much knowledge on the car so they know what they’re agreeing to. However, when the car comes with all this new technology that changes the way we maintain them, and available info is scattered, indirect, unclear, and potentially costs even more, that will push away people that don’t want to deal with it.

    • Uprise42@artemis.camp
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      11 months ago

      Your electric bill absolutely will not go up by as much as your saving on gas. It’s tough to figure out how much because it depends on your electric rate and how much you drive as well as your charging habits.

      I charge my car to full every night and live in western PA, but not sure of what the rates are for electric. My bill is under $150/month though. Gas is almost $4/gallon. Before our first EV in 2018 we spent about $200 a week on gas and gas has only gotten more expensive. We spend less on Electric per month for the entire house (not just the car) than we did on a week in gas.

      As for long trips, that’s an area seriously lacking. I use ABRP which is a mapping software that uses your specific model, battery charge, distance, elevation, traffic, and weather to figure out when to charge and for how long. You can also link up a OBDII sensor to get live data for more accurate route adjustments. I’d recommend giving that a look and mess with different cars to see what cars fit the routes you drive the best.

      I drove to Kentucky from western PA and only had to stop three times for about 2 hours of charge total in a Kia Niro 2022 EV. But we then didn’t stop to eat at other times we would have because we stopped in places with restaurants so it wasn’t 2 hours lost.

      We also did a trip to Washington DC to see the pandas before they left and made it the whole way with no charge. We only had to charge on the way home.

  • buzz86us@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    26
    ·
    11 months ago

    Yes we’ve adopted, now build cars that are fucking better for an affordable price.

  • hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    Unless this is an indictment of the charging infrastructure build out (in which case — fair), this doesn’t make sense. You don’t scale back after early adoption — you scale up to mass market.

    The US makers scaling back could seriously hamper EV growth now that EV tax credits require assembly in the US. Sounds to me like they need more regulatory incentive to make the production switch.

  • Grayox@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    arrow-down
    8
    ·
    11 months ago

    We need to mandate EV adoption, not rely on consumer demand, the amount of misinformation directed at EVs has been extremely effective. They aren’t perfect, but they are a hell of alot bettet than Internal Combustion Engines which spew poison into the environment . . .

  • spudwart@spudwart.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    If only there was an alternative for travel, other than buying a giant four-wheeled multi-ton money pit death machine, that could also run on electric instead of fossil fuels.

    If only.

  • cybersandwich@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    11 months ago

    I went on a trip recently and reserved a rental car at the airport. When I went to pick it up there was a huge line.

    They were running out of vehicles and didn’t have the types of vehicles that people reserved. I heard them offer electric vehicles to, no exaggerating, at least 10 people. All of them declined.

    The common theme was “I don’t know how I’d charge the thing”. Would their hotel have a charger? Would their other destinations? Where were they? How do the chargers work? Do I need an app?

    It struck me because that’s still a major issue for EV adoption. Maybe it’s just lack of exposure, but I recall a video that MKB did a while back that said EV charging is too complicated and annoying for normal people.