cross-posted from: https://beehaw.org/post/6853479

mastodon.art has decided to suspend firefish.social from their instance due to issues with its administrator. The administrator of firefish.social was found to be boosting posts from a known harasser on another instance. mastodon.art takes a firm stance against racism and suspending full instances in these situations is part of their policy as a safe space. The known harasser has a history of using slurs, harassment, and editing screenshots to spread misinformation. However, the administrator of firefish.social has now forged a screenshot to paint mastodon.art in a negative light.

  • millie@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    I spent way more time than was warranted digging into this completely petty drama.

    Eris seems to have been widely blocked and defederated for using the word ‘based’ and for thinking ubuntu.buzz was about linux. I’m not sure what kind of perspective makes that a priority, but it certainly doesn’t seem to be one based in compassion or world experience. Half the people I’ve met who use the word ‘based’ have nothing to do with 4chan, they’re just young. The first time I heard it was in reference to Mark Bunker during the Scientology protests in 08. Which, while certainly connected to 4chan, I don’t think can really be cast in the same light as all the Gamergate crap and everything that came after.

    Defederation is an important feature, and people should be able to defederate from whoever they want. What isn’t okay, though, is people going out of their way to propagate pettiness as much as humanly possible. Eris seems a little rough around the edges, but I also get the impression that the folks interacting with her in all the overly dramatic nonsense I just read are not acting in remotely good faith. They resemble a twitter mob looking for somebody to hate on, taking zero interest in understanding or nuance. No thanks.

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      I almost thought I had written your comment and completely forgot about it. No, I just almost made the exact comment and want that hour of my life back.

      If there was some over the top racist rant, I sure didn’t see it. And the admin pushing for the defederation sounds so bizarre. Bizarre is the best word I could come up with because “petty” makes me think it was like high school politics. This is closer to a grade school sandbox argument.

      The worst I saw was “defedfags” and it was used in a way that was meant to highlight how they never said anything offensive. Like saying, “If you thought what I said before was offensive, let’s see how you respond to something intended to be negative.”

      The crazy thing is that the decision is being made because the admin just liked a post. It’s not even because of the post content - which has nothing controversial and appeared maybe 8 times in my Lemmy/kbin feed yesterday.

      Editing to add that this is the article: https://kbin.social/search?q=wakeup+call

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    1 year ago

    What other art focused Masto instances do people recommend? .art seems to get involved in a lot of drama and I’m getting tired of it.

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    1 year ago

    The admin of mastodon.art is terrible and a huge, huge troll - just ignore them and move on lol

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    I don’t get it why tge commenters are upsetti of the way .art admin cleans their house.

    If they smell anything fishy, it’s their duty to protect their instance’s users. It’s what is promised for joining .art.

    There’s a reson it’s such a humongous instance. Because the admin is doing a stelar job.

    It’s not to my taste, that’s why I’m on another instance. But my lord, leave people be.

    If the admin is doing such a poor job, the instance will collapse, and people will simply migrate.

    To me it looks like fragile egos are all around, and somehow get “offended” when defederation happens.

    Also, GIMP is both a slur and a shitty graphics software. I’d personally block it as well.

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      How are people starting drama over a FOSS program that has been around for 25 years? Gimp is free, open-source, and good software. People starting drama over that are looking for trouble.

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        Why is everyone calling it drama. How difficult it is to understand a dumb rule that says “no slurs”?

        “Gimp” is literally a slur. The makers were aware of it and did for the lulz. Now they’re denied an account in an incredibly moderated instance because the name is a slur and everyone’s “why the drama11??11”

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          I think you have a different view on the project from reality. According to Wikipedia, the name “The Gimp” is a Pulp Fiction reference. The people who came up with the name “The Gimp” don’t even work on Gimp anymore. They’re CEO and CTO of the company developing CockroachDB. To imply that the volunteers running Gimp’s social media are some slur-crazy edgelords is counter productive.

          I don’t think any people think of the slur when talking about the project, and I think this is a bunch of Twitter drama nonsense. If you want to change it, then join the project and change it, don’t harass volunteers.

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          Wait since when is it a slur, and for what? I’ve only heard it refer to a particular role in a BDSM context

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    Is it just me or is mastodon.art the source of almost all of the drama on the fediverse?

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      @donuts I recently had a short conversation with someone from mastodon.art. They denied the GIMP devs an account on their server, because GIMP is a slur word. And they made a public announcement of this fact. Looks like the moderation/administration people are assholes, if they act and communicate like that. This community is new to me and all I know is about this GIMP announcement and this new drama.