• Nawor3565@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    Not to be a downer but… how did people not anticipate this happening? Google is likely going to do everything they can to shut down non-official clients like Piped, since they’re sidestepping all of YouTube’s revenue streams. Hopefully they don’t take the nuclear option and somehow lock down the API and make it much harder to download videos via tools like yt-dlp.

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      1 year ago

      Well, if they implement their web integrity DRM thingy in Chrome and Youtube then that will prevent anything that’s not a real approved browser from accessing the website, and with that the video streams. Not only Piped/Newpipe, but anything automated trying to access any website will be automatically locked out unless the website approves of it. New search engine bot? Archiving crawlers? Any type of third party program that accesses some website’s content without approval? Dead.

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      1 year ago

      I’m not going to be popular saying this but how is the service supposed to survive without a revenue stream? It takes a shit ton of bandwidth and storage to keep YouTube running, that ain’t free.

      I get that the ads are incredibly annoying but if you truly watch as much YouTube as some people in this thread are claiming, maybe it’s worth paying for it? I bit the bullet and for basically the price of my cancelled Spotify subscription I now have no ads in YT and an okay streaming service with yt music.

      Of course Google could do things better. And actually I think it would be important to have a competitor. But I wouldn’t expect that one to be free either.

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        If youtube fixed their content ID system and stopped falsely demonitizing all the creators I watch then I would hapily pay for youtube red (or whatever they call it now). As it is though I’m not giving them my money just for them to pay copyright trolls with some of it. I’d rather give my money to noone than risk having some of it go to the people leaching off the completely broken content ID system.

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        How many people are using Piped, revanced, or the like? I doubt it is the majority. This move is highly likely more greed than anything.

        Does Google care about our user experience? The short answer is no. Look at the intrusive ads, how long they are, them suggesting DRM, right wing pipeline, and more.

        Look at how they treat their content creators. Demonetization, channel and copyright strikes, etc.

        The list goes on. Youtube should and needs to be public. Internet is a utility and needed to survive by everyone. A video hosting service like Youtube is needed as well. Through every perspectice, Google is, ultimately, wrong in doing this.

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        1 year ago

        Leave us nerds an opening. The 99% that can’t figure out how to put in an adblocker should be able to cover us nicely.

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        This is c/privacy. Are you really advocating for pouring money on the company (Google) that’s doing everything it can to get to know everyone and use the information for showing deceiving ads, among other things? Or the company that supports false political propaganda? (In the form of paid advertisements). Support your creators, thats a very good thing, but for the love of god please do not fund this data mining machine.

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          I really am! If they don’t get money, and they don’t get data, and they (obviously) don’t get donations, how are they supposed to run the service? Out of the goodness of their hearts?

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            They get enough money already. They are even spending on military tech research (google ventures), lobbying, and of course on their investors who have an unfulfillable hunger for money.

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      1 year ago

      It amazes me how entitled these Internet hippies are nowadays. You can’t expect someone to provide such a huge service for free. If you don’t like ads, pay for it. It’s like $5 per month when you pay as a group…

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        I would pay if

        1. Google promised not collect any data but now you would pay and have your data collected.

        2. I just want load my subscription feed and they are all there not hidden away.

        3. Hid shorts or have them on separate tab.

        4. Bonus would be if related videos where acutely related videos in time span. Not the mess they are now.

        Also why would I have to pay YouTube music? I don’t want that.