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- technology@beehaw.org
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- technology@beehaw.org
Windows 10 gets three more years of security updates, if you can afford them::Windows 10 gets a version of the program that extended updates for Windows 7.
Paid updates may as well be no updates. Give us privacy or cost.
Of course Linux is the only way
Speak for yourself. I’d rather pay then suffer through Linux desktop.
You’re the contrarian that likes corporate so much. Didn’t think i will see your comment here.
Edit: It’s actually fitting that you would show up here.
I recognize that fantastic username. Just… avoid the guy.
I had an unrelated encounter with him/her/they/it/whatever a couple of weeks ago. Troll or not, the guy tends to be a dick about everything.
I disagree with the user base. I’m a dick. Got it. Can you point out where I have dune anything but express my opinion?
Bruv. You have a -16341 and decreasing total user score.
Clearly you’re quite abrasive to have a score like that.
Not to mention that you have about 15.2333… comments per day on average which seems pretty damn obsessive to me.
Yeah I don’t even bother engaging anymore. It’s a troll account. Downvote, ignore, and move on.
I would say I’m just closer to the average user in needs and wants.
Agreed. You have shown us you are very close to average. Just a tiny bit more intellect and you’ll make it there! God speed, superstar.
Seething turns into attacks. Ya got me.
If it makes you feel better to think of me as seething, go ahead! Hope you feel better soon ❤️
Hope you feel better soon ❤️
🤣🤣🤣 Man, I need to take lessons! Thank you for that.
Then why are you in all your arguments I have seen you; defaulting to the position that things you pay for are “always” better than things that are “free”? Many would agree to the position that things we pay for are “usually” better than things that are free.
It’s true that paying gives you better quality… but NOT ALWAYS.
Because that’s the average user. If the average user defaulted to setting up next cloud then Google wouldn’t be worth a trillion dollars. There are conflations with the average lemmy user and an actual average user.
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Zero relevance. None. Nowhere in that rambling did you make any point. I award you zero points and may God have mercy on your soul.
Linux Mint would like to have a word with you.
Even mint forces you to do major version upgrades, and eventually something breaks enough that I have to do a clean install anyway.
Have you done a “Linux mint update” search on Google?
Have you ever used it before? You literally click a few buttons lmao
👌👍
You came to the wrong neighborhood
What exactly you don’t like in Linux?
Extension updates compatibility and stability, video card driver issues, poor inconsistent audio source management tools, general challenges getting 1-1 level of functionality with touch pads and webcams (spending days trying to figure out why xdotool isn’t working only to find you now need ydotool for Wayland was fun).
Extension updates compatibility and stability
Then stop using GNOME, lol. ◉‿◉
poor inconsistent audio source management tools
Elaborate, because I haven’t had any issues with PipeWire.
You should stick to a stable disto. It feels like you are exploring installing packages on your own instead of using a distribution like PopOS or Linux Mint
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That’s the day I get Linux, I guess.
I upgraded my Surface Pro 3’s to Kubuntu just this week. Should have done it ages ago. They run faster and cooler now.
I’ve read there’s an issue with the camera. How’s it working out for you?
Linux distro version depositories are deleted after 2 years.
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And you can’t possibly see any relevance huh.
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If there’s something stupid that Apple does, people will talk about using Windows or Android instead. You’re the weird one for getting angry about something that’s completely expected.
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Look, if you can’t handle that people here like Linux, you’re probably better off just leaving the site altogether and going to somewhere like Reddit. Lemmy is FOSS, which is the main ethos behind Linux.
You’re like the kid who goes into a McDonalds and then complains that they don’t serve fois gras there. What the fuck did you expect? It’s a fucking McDonald’s. They’re not gonna have that shit there.
Also, it would help you out in your future if you understood the difference between people liking something and talking about it on their own with others and “shoving it down your throat”.
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This is literally a discussion about operating systems, and how Windows is about to do something that will directly push people into needing or choosing a new one. Even without Lemmy’s culture this is an obvious time to mention Linux. You can bitch and cry and screech all you want, but you’re the one getting your panties in a bunch when Linux is literally on topic here.
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You shouldn’t use autism in a derogatory way
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I use Arch.
I’ve been with Windows forever, since version 3. I’m old.
These past few months I’ve been trying Ubuntu, and it’s fine for everyday use, browsing and file management. And, LibreOffice has been my office suite for years, so no problem there–I don’t demand much from that.
But, graphics applications are barely there. Blender is fine. Inkscape is so-so, but I just discovered recently that it doesn’t keep track of object rotation, so there is no simple way to set the rotation back to zero. Corel Draw gave up Linux support years ago, or that would be my go-to. I haven’t tried LibreDraw yet, but I don’t have much hope for it. Gimp is, eh.
I haven’t tried playing FO4 or Starfield yet, though. I’ve just been switching back to Windows for that.
I don’t mind using Terminal, it reminds me of MS-DOS days, but I don’t see myself ever become proficient at it.
I won’t be getting Windows 11, I’ve decided that. But I see that I’ll likely need to give up a lot to make that stand.
You might enjoy more Fedora KDE or Linux Mint.
Windows 10 LTSC IoT + a certain mass grave script or whatever has got you covered until 2032.
What’s in 2032?
The year 2032 problem.
secretly hopes 2032 isn’t too bad of a year
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
As it has done for other stubbornly popular versions of Windows, though, Microsoft is offering a reprieve for those who want or need to stay on Windows 10: three additional years of security updates, provided to those who can pay for the Extended Security Updates (ESU) program.
The initial announcement, written by Windows Servicing and Delivery Principal Product Manager Jason Leznek, spends most of its time encouraging users and businesses to upgrade to Windows 11 rather than staying on 10, either by updating their current computers, upgrading to new PCs or transitioning to a Windows 365 cloud-based PC instead.
The company told us that “pricing will be provided at a later date,” but for the Windows 7 version of the ESU program, Microsoft upped the cost of the program each year to encourage people to upgrade to a newer Windows version before they absolutely had to; the cost was also per-seat, so what you paid was proportional to the number of PCs you needed updates for.
Windows 10 has mostly been in a security-updates-only maintenance mode since the 22H2 update came out late last year, but Microsoft did “revisit” the operating system last month to add the Copilot generative AI assistant and a handful of other tweaks.
For businesses, educational institutions, or governments, the point of the ESU program has always been to buy slow-moving IT shops extra time to learn about the new features in newer versions of Windows, to educate and inform users about the upgrade, and to test for incompatibilities with other mission-critical hardware and software.
Windows 11’s new system requirements add an additional wrinkle, though—not every single Windows 10 PC in every single organization officially supports Windows 11, adding the time and cost of hardware replacement (or migrating to a cloud-based setup) to the time and cost of changing operating system versions.
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Welp, time for online security across the world to be destroyed! No one is going to pay that
I’m not gonna pay for updates, I’m just stick with my old win 7 untill the end. Glad i take the right decision to full backup 8 years ago
Although i never got updates or can run modern apps anymore, at least i got very stable & less annoying windowsgod i really hope this is either a joke or a backup computer that has no access to the Internet
related: https://lemmy.world/post/9194097