While they were happy with what the fairphone 4 brought to the table, they seem to like what was changed for the fairphone 5.
What are you guys’ opinions on this? A welcome change? would you get one if your phone died within the next year?

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    I really wish another viable mobile OS would come out. I don’t want android and apple iOS is wearing thin on me.

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        Perhaps next year will be the year of the Linux Phone. Alas, the same problems that plague the Linux desktop plague the phone. Lack of software.

        It’s also very difficult to move out of the Apple ecosystem once everything just works the way you think it should. 

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          I’m quite interested in the developments on waydroid that would allow the use of Android apps on a Linux phone.

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          Linux desktop is far more mature and there isn’t even a year for the Linux desktop yet. Linux mobile will probably never take off within our lifetime lmao.

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          Agreed. I don’t have a home computer. All of my online experience is done through my iPhone. I can’t be messing around with phones I constantly need to tweak or troubleshoot. I’ve done it to myself, but I’m okay with where I’m at rn.

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            Oh yes please stick with Apple. I don’t think I have ever heard of a better use case scenario.

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                Seems like an honest recommendation to me. You fit the apple use case pretty well, so if it works for you, great. I’d argue a stock pixel using stock android would be comparable in terms of not needing to mess with stuff since its a very curated experience, since google then controls the hardware and software, like apple.

                The trade off is you’re giving google (or apple) 100% access and control to everything you do on your phone.

                With a fairphone or any other android with (e, grapheneOS, calyxOS, lineage, etc) you WILL need to change some settings, maybe play around with it a bit to get it working how you want, but you are the one in control. Its really not that difficult to develop the small amount of technological knowledge needed given the amount of help available online and I’d say its a necessary life skill these days just like learning to use a computer became a necessary life skill.

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        I tried it on a spare old phone and found it pretty unusable tbh. Very limited application choices and I hated the UI / app management work flow.

        Also I hated that by default the terminal (and superuser privileges) are VERY locked down.

        It’s possible I just didn’t know what I was doing tho ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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          Yeah, I’ve put Ubuntu Touch on a Pixel 3a and had a pretty similar experience unfortunately. I see potential, but it’s just not usable yet (for me at least).

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      It would end up getting ignored or quickly devolve into the same shit as the others. 😞

      Fuck, if Microsoft couldn’t do it, then there’s not much hope for anyone else.

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      There was so much competition in the early days of smartphones, its sad we ended up, the whole of humanity with two choices. Meego a collab between Intel and Nokia was really unique and a good model for social media and communications. Windows Phone was good purely to have another major competitor, but the interface was way ahead of Android and iOS for providing a better mobile experience.

      RIM Blackberry, Nokia, Palm, all had a red hot go. Amazon tried recently and failed, they look like they’ll give it another shot with their new OS.

      Yeah its just sad

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            I’m not going to criticize the project, because it’s good. But, to me, using anything that gives Google an edge in controlling the direction of technology is bad. So, no Chromium products and no Android.

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              I despise Google, and I agree with chromium, but when the only other alternative is using the proprietary walled garden that is iOS, I’ll take degoogled Android everyday.

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                What can android do that you actually do that iOS cannot?

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                  For starters, you can degoogle Android, you can’t deapple iOS.

                  You can replace the manufacturer android with a clean, free software and secure Android ROM, like GrapheneOS. iOS is a black box, fully proprietary and controlled by Apple.

                  You can install apps from third parties on Android, like F-Droid. On iOS every app must be approved by Apple.

                  You can’t use an iPhone without an Apple account, you can use Android without a Google account.

                  Android has multiple profiles support, which comes handy for completely isolating apps from the rest of your phone.

                  There’s much, much more. That’s just what came to my mind right now.

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                    How can I download apps (not side load) from a store (play store for example) without having a Google account?

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                  Personally, I like using the terminal on my phone, and the only terminal I found for iOS is extremely slow because its emulating linux.

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      I miss WebOS as a mobile OS and I can’t bear to see what LG has done do it.

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          I found it to be a very elegant OS, paired with a very elegant form factor in the Palm Pre. This was over 10 years ago, before Android had cemented its place, but WebOS was a bit ahead of its time, or at least out of sync with the time it was introduced. But it was a slick, intuitive OS that influenced the UX we take for granted today. I believe it was the first to have card-based task management. That satisfying “flick” to close an app was first seen on the Palm Pre.

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            If the palm pre had better build quality and wasnt tied down to sprint in the US I sometimes wonder how things would have played out. It was a better OS than android(especially since it was competing with the g1).

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              Yeah, I remember some noise around that, which is probably why they made the Pixi with a lot fewer moving parts after that. For what it’s worth, my Pre stood up great and was still in good shape when I upgraded away from it.