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tar.gz7zip, son!”Why is there rarely a mention of 7zip?
I feel like I’ve seen it mentioned like 50 times in the past two weeks here on Lemmy.
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[Sigh]… *7zip*
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PeaZip I would suggest better.
Just use 7-Zip
if you’re on Windows use NanaZip. 7Zip refuses to use modern compression and encryption algorithms or integrate with the new Windows APIs. NanaZip is a fork that does just that.
Windows?! What?!
7-zip doesn’t exist on Linux. p7zip does, which hasn’t been updated since 2016
EDIT: It does, I stand corrected
Not only it does exist, but it’s also in official repos.
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Thanks, will check this out!
Of course! 7-zip is absolutely a software cornerstone, but as in all things open source it’s now better as it’s forked version with more active community efforts taking place
Such is the power of open source.
So say we all
Latest release is a touch old (2022) and it’s not the most active repo ever. Hopefully its not dying.
Well at least someone’s gonna make money from WinRAR users
Well, good that Windows now has native RAR support.
Somehow Windows has always been and is still crap at managing archives. Ultra-slow, has trouble opening or extracting individual files inside the archive, etc.
However, 7-zip has been doing all that perfectly forever now. Not sure why anyone would use WinRAR, paid for or not.
Even 7Zip now though is insecure and outdated. Use NanaZip if you’re on windows, it’s a fork that is more secure and uses modern compression/encryption algorithms in addition to integrating better with current Windows APIs
Yeah maybe isn’t great but I admit that be able to use the open file window from a program and select a file inside a compressed file is nice.
WinRAR is an internet institution at this point. It’s like Amtrak, why would anyone ride the train when there are better cheaper and faster modes of transport? Don’t know but people do anyway
What? Amtrak is great for specific use cases. For intrastate travel in the US, Amtrak often is the fastest, cheapest, most comfortable experience.
Oddly, going two states over, it’s often the slowest and most expensive, but for mid haul distance, Amtrak is fantastic.
That’s kind of my point that WinRAR has its limited use cases like Amtrak does although majority of the time it’s more efficient to use something else
*Only for opening rar files. Not creating them.
Interesting. About a month ago I joined the elite club of WinRAR licence owners.
These hackers must be targeting you, then.
I bought mine and own it happily - us licence holders should all get together, we could probably fill up a Chuck-E-Cheese
One of three
Mine is a few years older.
the only reason anyone still uses this shit is ignorance
On a very very rare occasion I’ve had to use it for scene cracks as other apps didn’t work. They use WinRAR to archive it so on those very rare occasions it’s the only thing that unpacks it
WinRAR also lets you delete files from a RAR archive, 7zip does not.
For me it’s laziness.
I bought a lifetime license literally more than 20 years ago to support the developer. I use 7Zip for most stuff but prefer WinRAR for split rar archive support.
That’s, quite ironically, a pretty ignorant opinion. There are areas where WinRAR is stronger than 7zip.
The person you replied to never mentioned 7-Zip, and there’s forks and other programs that are probably just as strong in the same areas.
“probably”
The commenter implied that there’s a tool which is better than WinRAR in everything and therefore there can’t possibly be a reason to use WinRAR. Which application is it then?
I’d need to know the areas you consider 7-Zip to be stronger in first, because I can’t think of anything myself.
As an example, RAR provides parity records which allows recovery of large amounts of compressed data in case of data corruption. 7zip can lose all its content if one bit is flipped.
RAR provides much more support for underlying file system support which makes it more suitable as an archival tool. Things like NTFS hard links, streams, ACLs, all three timestamps. 7zip doesn’t support that.
WinRAR in general has way more niche features for advanced use cases, while 7zip focuses on the basics.
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However, from a practical perspective, deceiving users into performing the required action shouldn’t be overly challenging, and given the vast size of WinRAR’s user base
Excuse me, but “vast” size of WinRAR’s user base? I didn’t know WinRAR even had any users left.
9 out of 10 people I know use WinRAR. It’s amongst the very firsr software they install at fresh start.
I myself also just changed to 7-Zip around… I don’t know, a year ago?
Which part of the world is this, if you don’t mind me asking? (just genuinely curious, cause I haven’t come across any WinRARs in the wild here in NZ, most folks I know use either 7-Zip or PeaZip).
I’m from Europe, in the embrace of the Carpathian Mountains :)
before WinRAR, people used WinZIP here in the '00s (at least Windows folks). Again, a strange choice, I know.
Am in the US and used winrar for a long time as it was integrated into Usenet binaries as rar files. It was embedded with some other software.
WinRAR was what I used in the 2000s. Around 2011, 7-zip was my goto. I haven’t looked back since.
I wasn’t aware of pea-zip until this thread
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There is that one last user
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/lX_pF03vCSU
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.
Well, even FAR manager which they’ve open-souced long time ago is still maintained 😀 Good thing they didn’t discover this bug in 2000s!
That looks quite interesting, seems like they’ve even got quite an extensive list of plugins - looks like may be even better than Midnight Commander. :o
Ah, FAR manager.
I used it last time around… 15 years ago to apply VKP patches on my Sony Ericsson phones :P like making my K750i into a ‘W750i’ with W800i software, adding GFX and Acoustic patches…
Still use it out of habit!
It’s been like at least 5 years since I’ve seen a rar file.
PeaZip is GOAT software. Truly amazing.
How does it compare to 7-Zip?
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They are basically a vitamined frontend + custom backend for 7zip-zstd supporting several other formats such as lzip.
Thanks! I’ve been happy with 7-Zip for Windows, but what you’re describing sound like an upgrade with few downsides, if any. I’ll try it next time I get the chance!
Another pro is that PeaZip is multi platform and could be used in MacOS and GNU/Linux.
7-Zip is multi platform too
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That version is not official. Was a rework made by an external user.
I remember the main author was trying to rework their custom version but yes, no GUI.
It support zip, rar, 7z. Basically all archive formats. It has way better UI. It is open source. It is free in beer.
It is open source. It is free in beer.
It is free as in speech. Your phrase refers to proprietary yet no cost software.
Free as in freedom is not a big argument for most people. But as in beer 😏
This!
I used winrar at first, but never truly trusted 7zip. Didn’t like the way it looked. Then first time I learned about ninite, I saw peazip and never looked back.
With the soon to be supported .rar on windows 11 I might do away with it but I feel peazip works faster.
The built in zip support in windows is super slow. I wonder if they will improve it when rar support comes.
Welp. Good thing I never bought it haha.
Zstd go brrr
using WinRAR
And that’s how I know that voting should be a privilege, not a right.
You’re so dramatic
Truth is dramatic.
Prolific man, so true
