• Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    The reason why Valve does all this cool shit is because it’s a private company and not publicly traded. It owes nothing to no one.

    As soon as a company goes public, it owes its shareholders its profits and has an obligation to make as much as possible and use whatever means it can to do so.

    Gabe doesn’t care. He does what he wants and he knows what his customers want.

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      Don’t forget the part where they’re able to do that because they basically own the Windows market so pursuing projects that won’t see a RoI in the short term is possible for them but wouldn’t be for others.

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      This is super true in so many ways. I worked for a private company for several years and about 2 years ago they were bought out by a public company. Things changed real quick lol. The original owners swore they would never sell too. I til they did one day lol

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      11 months ago

      “HE kNoWnS whAT CuStoMeRs WaNT”

      No he doesn’t, people kept saying HL3 and there’s no HL3. The company committed crimes and illegal activities in many countries.

      Stop the propaganda nonsense.

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          I put an admittedly low amount of effort into searching (skimmed a couple dozen links or so) for evidence of crimes and came up empty. I’d be curious to see trustworthy sources about this as well.

          Re: HL3. It’s a particularly infamous example of a game cancelation, and it does suck but studios canceling games happens.

          Edit: Excepting antitrust lawsuits. I wasn’t surprised to see that and glossed over it, but it does qualify as a crime and I would say is a reasonable accusation. I didn’t read more in to it than that, yet.

          Edit 2: The TL;DR: of the antitrust lawsuit if you weren’t aware (I wasn’t) is that Steam is taking a cut of up to 30% which they’re arguing is excessive. Game makers don’t really have a choice given that Steam is the market leader. Here’s a random newer article, more about Gabe having to appear in court, but it covers the basics. https://www.techspot.com/news/100969-gabe-newell-ordered-testify-person-valve-antitrust-lawsuit.html

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            30% has been the industry standard rate for decades and unlike consoles or mobile, PC game developers have more choices than any other even down to self-selling. It’s such a nothing lawsuit.

            This is one dev upset because their game they spent what felt like 50 years developing one of the first “big” Indie titles didn’t make them enough money.

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              While I won’t comment as to the validity of the lawsuit (that is for the courts):

              1. The “standard” for selling video games involved needing a publisher who could coordinate with manufacturers and distributors to fight to get your big box onto a Best Buy shelf. Steam is one of the biggest “disruptors” in history. They don’t get to make the “that is just how it always was” argument*
              2. PC Game developers very much do not have more choices. Because, with very few exceptions, the response to “we are selling this on our own store” or “we are selling this as a gog/humble/epic exclusive” is “Fuck you, wake me up when you are on steam”.

              I don’t know enough of the math behind the Steam CDNs and services to know if it is worth the cut. But, much like I am always going to whinge at DLC prices even as I acknowledge that it is “a good deal”, I am also going to generally side with “devs deserve more money”.

              *: Take this with a grain of salt since it is a large claim and there are obviously no citations. But Steam did not invent digital distribution and companies like Strategy First (?) existed. And their cut for the massively inflated game prices (80 USD in the early 2000s…) was a LOT higher than 30%. Ironically, Valve used the same “you get more money if you sell with us” argument.

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        People don’t even know what people want. Gabe knows people expect HL3 to be some godly game and he knows what they make will in all likelihood not live up to that image. Why bother if it will just bring disappointment to everyone? Just save the effort and enjoy the memes.