• helenslunch@feddit.nl
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    11 months ago

    If you are going hand-over-hand in a roundabout, you’re doing something very wrong…

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      11 months ago

      That’s not the issue, imagining driving through a roundabout that curves left and having to find a button somewhere on the steering wheel, which is at an angle, in order to indicate right before turning tight in order to exit the roundabout.

      A stalk will always be in the same position. The same cannot be said for buttons.

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        11 months ago

        imagining driving through a roundabout that curves left and having to find a button somewhere on the steering wheel

        Your don’t have to “find” anything, it’s right next to your thumb

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          11 months ago

          Drivers frequently change their hand placement as they turn the wheel. You lose precision and basic ability to manipulate the wheel if you don’t.

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          11 months ago

          Again, it depends on the angle of the steering wheel. The buttons may be upside down if the car is turning sharply enough.

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            11 months ago

            Again, it depends on the angle of the steering wheel.

            Again, no it doesn’t. The button should always be in the exact same position, relative to your thumb.

            The buttons may be upside down if the car is turning sharply enough.

            If you’re turning that sharply, you’re not going to need turn signals.

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              11 months ago

              Do you stick your hands to the steering wheel with Krazy glue?

              You can’t be serious if you think people don’t take sharp turns from time to time and have to indicate.

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                11 months ago

                Do you stick your hands to the steering wheel with Krazy glue?

                …huh?

                You can’t be serious if you think people don’t take sharp turns from time to time and have to indicate.

                You are bad at reading. Try again.

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                  11 months ago

                  I’ll do it your way…

                  …huh?

                  I was replying to this comment:

                  Again, no it doesn’t. The button should always be in the exact same position, relative to your thumb.

                  Are you seriously telling me you never reposition your hands on the steering wheel?

                  You are bad at reading. Try again.

                  This is total nonsense:

                  If you’re turning that sharply, you’re not going to need turn signals.

                  Ever heard about U-turns? You need to signal while doing those too. That’s just one example that disputes your position.

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                    11 months ago

                    Are you seriously telling me you never reposition your hands on the steering wheel?

                    You’re still bad at reading. That’s not what I said. Try again.

                    Ever heard about U-turns? You need to signal while doing those too.

                    If you turn on your signal in the middle of a U-turn, you’re a bad driver. That’s not a problem with the car, that’s a problem with you.

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      11 months ago

      I think you’re right. People in this thread are forgetting that this steering yoke doesn’t have anywhere to put your hands other than right next to the buttons

      A driving instructor saying “I couldn’t use this on my first go” isn’t a fatal argument for the control

      Sure a stick is probably superior, but I bet you could build muscle memory on a wheel that works like a race car’s

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        But it’s not a yoke, it’s a steering wheel, which generally turn up to 1 and 1/2 times each way, which with a small radius roundabout (which is a lot of them in Norway) means you’ll have to go hand over hand to turn sharply enough, thus not having your hands on the exact same spots through the turn and thus not able to press the right haptic feedback panel at that time.

        See https://lemmy.ml/comment/7056795