My takeaway is that it’s only original Rogue fans that care about the delineation of the terms. Is there a modern (i.e. post 2000s game) that matches the definition of a roguelike as given in the article?

  • GreenAlex@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    ·
    10 months ago

    The conversation around the two really wears me out. IMO, there’s no need to be so restrictive. We can call them traditional roguelikes, platform roguelikes, whatever, and I think that’s fine. If anything, I think we should have better terminology to differentiate games where the runs are isolated and those where there is meta progression. I don’t think roguelite a good name for the latter.

    • Risk@feddit.ukOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      10 months ago

      The conversation around the two really wears me out.

      Sorry! I came across a game and realised that there were two distinct terms that I had heard/seen over the years, and so I wondered what the difference was. Never come across discourse over it before, so that’s why I posted.

      • GreenAlex@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        Nothing against you specifically! It would be more accurate to say that the people who will die on the hill of roguelike being something very specific wear me out. I certainly didn’t intent to make a dig at you, so sorry about that!

    • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      10 months ago

      We can also just call them all rogue-likes. Everyone intuitively understands there’s a huge space in that by now, and the games can wildly differ. It’s fine. We know that no two MMORPGs are alike, and now two rogue-likes are alike.

    • Skyhighatrist@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      Sure, that’s fine if people were actually specifying any sort of modifier. But calling everything a roguelike makes it hard to find the traditional roguelikes for those that like them. I’d be ok if the terms were standardized with modifiers like “Traditional Roguelike”, etc, but they aren’t. Everything with permadeath gets the label roguelike these days.