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    10 months ago

    all i see is articles from corporate us/uk media making extraordinary claims without extraordinary proof. nothing being said in my native tongue about it that isnt direct reference to the aforementioned outlets.

    tell me, fascist, where is all that proof?

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      10 months ago

      Tell you what. I’ll deny there is any genocide in Gaza on the exact same basis that you’re denying it for the Uyghurs. Does that work for you? If it really has to be “extraordinary”, then it has to be applied equally.

      Or is this not something like, say, UFOs or homeopathy where we actually need extraordinary evidence?

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          10 months ago

          I know. I specifically want to target this phrase “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”, because I’ve noticed it being increasingly abused to ignore evidence.

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          10 months ago

          ‘significant mistreatment’ is a big step down from genocide, even then I would love to see the evidence for it and adjust my view of the situation.

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        10 months ago

        Not the same basis at all. You can’t deny there is genocide in Gaza because there is extensive photographic and video evidence, aid openly going from the US to Israel, plenty of refugees seeking asylum in neighbouring countries, palestine voices talking about it and so on. Israel themselves seem pretty nonchalant about it. Similar but not equal evidence arose in Armenia, apartheid South Africa, nazi Germany and so on.

        There are pictures of unidentified prisioners and some corporate media used to make pretty extraordinary (as in out of the ordinary) claims about them. No we don’t need as much proof as UFOs, its not even on the same ballpark.

        So I can repeat my reasoning with more context: Where is all that evidence of Muslims being genocided by the droves over there?

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          Nah, all I see are pictures from Russian outlets.

          See how easy that was to pretend there is no evidence?

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            10 months ago

            what do you even mean, should i even try to argue with this in good faith?

            you can literally find publications from all around the world doing original hands-on journalism about it on the first few pages of google.

            im literally asking for all that evidence on every post now. all i can find is, yet again, pictures of random unidentifiable prisioners with wild conspiracies about them being part of a secret genocide.