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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/11703528

It was fun while it lasted. The recent addition of PGP support was very welcome, and I thought that such support might have been a sign that they were in it for the long-term with the email product, but I thought wrong.

Dear Skiff Community,

We are excited to share that Skiff is joining Notion.

Skiff’s mission is to bring freedom to the internet by helping people collaborate and communicate with freedom and privacy. We see a deep alignment with Notion’s vision to build a connected workspace and enable everyone to build tools that reflect their values.

We’re extremely excited to accelerate our mission by joining forces with Notion’s world-class team. We sincerely hope that the Skiff community will join us for this next stage of our journey. We’re pursuing big plans for making all of our online lives freer and more empowered, and these plans will carry forward directly the ambitions we’ve strived for alongside the Skiff community.

As we begin to shift focus to our shared efforts with Notion, we will be closing down Skiff’s product suite after a 6-month sunset period We are deeply appreciative of the trust users have extended to us, and we are committed to honoring that trust by ensuring that all data on Skiff is easily exportable. For the next 6 months, Skiff services will continue to operate without disruption, and users can freely duplicate, migrate, or export data. You can now also set up a forwarding address to redirect mail to any other provider.

Our commitment to privacy and security is unchanged. All user data remains end-to-end encrypted, and Skiff products will never monetize your data. Accounts and data on Skiff will not be converted into Notion accounts.

We encourage you to export your data and migrate custom domains within the next 6 months. We’ve prepared this guide to make that process as easy as possible. For any other questions, our support team is readily available via the in-app “Send feedback” option or at support@skiff.org.

The Skiff community has lifted, inspired, and energized us at every step. We are humbled by your support and we apologize for any disappointment or inconvenience this change may cause you. We remain as committed as ever to bringing about the vision for a better internet that brought us together. Thank you for being part of the Skiff family, and we look forward to continuing to serve you with our future efforts.

Sincerely, Skiff Team

        • Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          4·
          11 months ago

          I wish the address book and calendar information were also encrypted

          However, Open-Exchange, the software platform used by Mailbox.org, does not support the encryption of your address book and calendar. A standalone option may be more appropriate for that information. (source)

          I currently use protonmail but if mailbox.org made that change I’d switch immediately, so I could actually get calendar integration on KDE (with Kontact)

          • Lunch@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            11 months ago

            Only recently, but been recommended them a few times here and there. Seems very good so far, personally use it with Thunderbird, as I prefer the UI and features it offers. It’s also very very reasonably priced. Plus it’s German service, so has good privacy laws (depends on your privacy model I guess), but suits mine.

            There is also https://posteo.de/en, that could be worth checking out.

      • Pasta Dental@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        8·
        11 months ago

        I used Tutanota a few years ago, they have a bit less features and their apps are kind of janky/old feeling, but they have slightly better security because of reasons I forget (iirc something about encrypting the email subject, not sure though)

        • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          11 months ago

          I like Tutanota, and honestly, even though the app feels “old”, I kind of like it. I don’t think of that as “old” , I think of it as “professional”. It doesn’t look like a fisher price toy with giant round objects taking up the visual space, floating an annoying distance from on another for no reason. Though I’m keenly aware some “modern” UI designer will be brought in at some point to make it chase iOS aesthetics, as all apps must apparently do now.

          What I don’t like about Tutanota is that if I want to use something other than the app, there’s no way. You can’t use Tutanota in a different email client and you can’t automatically forward emails.

          I appreciate why. Only allowing access to email through their app helps keep everything encrypted end-to-end.

          But not providing the option to allow certain mailboxes to be pulled into Thunderbird or Outlook makes it hard to justify a full move to Tuta. I don’t need that level of security for every single email sent to every single one of my addresses, and I’d like the convenience of being able to let some come through to Thunderbird.

          Proton allows this an option, Tutanota does not.