Russia is using SpaceX’s Starlink satellite devices in Ukraine, sources say::undefined

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        It would be strange if he still needed more after he scammed Tesla investors into giving him a $50 Bn USD bonus, setting a new record for pay disparity between CEO and average worker.

        I wonder if they’ve got something else on him?

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      Not even the article you didn’t read implies SpaceX is selling these to Russia. This tech falls under US sanctions to Russia. Starlink is not enabled there. Hell, it’s not even enabled on Crimea as was demonstrated by the failed Ukrainian drone boat assault there.

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        How dare you insinuate I didn’t read the article. I’ll have you know I read every bit of the first paragraph. Now, good day sir. harrumph

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    Is this a surprise?

    It’s not exactly easy to tell from a satellite if it’s a Russian or Ukrainian operator.

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      I’m confused. Do you think starlink is free to access? You have to have authentication to use it, spacex is allowing russia to use it.

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        Of course starlink is allowing paying customers to use it, won’t someone think of the shareholders!

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        Yeah, it’s totally impossible for Russia to register these using an Ukrainian VPN with Ukrainian ID. It’s not like they have access to tons of POWs or even Ukrainians that are sympathetic to Russia.

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          So now you think that it’s… Ukrainian traitors or pows? You think they don’t deactivate clearance for anyone captured?

          If you’re going to make up fan fiction for Russia, at least suggest something more realistic, like espionage

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            Is registration only limited to military personnel? My guess is that anyone except citizens of sanctioned countries can register one of those, so you just need any kind of Ukrainian (or even non-Russian) ID, which are probably plentiful if you have access to POWs or the population of Donbass.

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        spacex is allowing russia to use it

        Bold claim to suggest they would be defying US sanctions to Russia like that. Got anything to back that up? Not even the article that you didn’t read implies that.

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          Bold claim to suggest they would be defying US sanctions to Russia like that

          I’m no diplomat but I’m pretty sure this doesn’t break any laws.

          And if you know anything about Musk then it’s really not a bold claim.

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            It’s against US sanctions. Starlink doesn’t work in Russia (or Crimea) for this very reason.

            “If SpaceX obtains knowledge that a Starlink terminal is being used by a sanctioned or unauthorized party, we investigate the claim and take actions to deactivate the terminal if confirmed.”

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            But you clearly didn’t read the article. This makes having dialog in the comments frustrating.

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              I did though. Nowhere in the article does it mention this breaking any laws. Just that spacex doesn’t sell to Russia.

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      Yeah, they put up a prompt when you visit that you confirm you’re over 18 and definitely Ukrainian.

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      People on Lemmy have a massive hard on for hating anyone who makes more money than they do or represents any right wing ideologies

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        The fact you think it’s about something so shallow as money kinda shows that you haven’t been listening to anyone at all.

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        Don’t get me wrong, I hate musk, and billionaires in general.

        I just hate people being wrong on the internet more.

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    Well, Elon Musk is a traitor, bigot and fascist, so this makes sense. I would not be surprised if he is sharing sensitive Ukrainian data with the Russians as Ukrainians also use Starlink.

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    Can’t wait for all of the concerned users to start screaming about ITAR…any second now.

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    I can see that the supplier has his balls in Russia’a vise grips from that fucking hellsite he “bought”

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    Musk is an ass, but there’s way too many possible explanations and insufficient information to be throwing accusations around right now.

    The CIA should definitely be looking into this, though.

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    Just giving Elon the benefit of a doubt. Perhaps the Russian’s might have taken over a region and the equipment was not taken during the evacuation. Who knows if this starlink device is even operational.