Hello. Many of the older thinkpads were regarded as being peak for the ability to repair and easily see into them at both the hardware and software levels.

I was wondering, what PC, if any, is similar in this regard? Aside from building your own PC ofc. Any opinions are welcome. Thank you.

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    Idk, but I’ll tell you Dell and HP desktops are the opposite of the Thinkpad. Every part they can make proprietary, they do make proprietary.

    • Case
    • Motherboard
    • Power Supply
    • CPU Cooler

    Cannot be upgraded or replaced with off the shelf parts.

    If your system dies, you’re expected to just buy a new one and chuck the old one in the bin.

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      I have had several used dell / hp motherboards, the only thing proprietary was that some were 12V only and needed a 6 usd adapter to work with regular atx psus.

      And also the power button connector, you have to figure out which pins are the ones that turn the PC on.

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        New models integrate all the front IO into the motherboard, so they really only work with the case from the manufacturer. Like this and this.

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          I’m pretty sure the second one will work on any case, just that you might be missing the I/O plate.

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            Look closely at the opposite edge of the board. All the front IO (including the power button) is on that little protrusion.

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              Oh, sorry I thought you were talking about the I/O plate.

              TIme to use an open frame case then lol.

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      Aren’t they really expensive? Sure if you have the money, but what do you recommend as a budget option?

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          Many people just don’t have £2000 to spend on a laptop, no matter how much it could save them in the log run.

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            The most recycling friendly laptop is the one you already on, isn’t it? In addition, if somebody dropped a quarter of that price on a laptop, then used It’s in exchange for a different laptop every couple years, couldn’t they have a half decent system for around a decade without having to worry about a laptop that’s expensive up front but easy to upgrade?

            I’m not very good with hardware replacement myself, but based on some of the comments here, if I needed a laptop I might consider a used ThinkPad

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        Are you under the impression that PCs and laptops are different? Because they’re not. The word you are actually looking for is “desktop”, but OP didn’t use that word.

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          Easy enough to imply it from all of the other comments in the thread, and the fact that the op referred to the ThinkPad in the title. You’re correct, and it’s not your fault the op used the wrong word, but context indicates that they were talking about desktop PCs.