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Mozilla Corp., which manages the open-source Firefox browser, announced today that Mitchell Baker is stepping down as CEO to focus on AI and internet safety as chair of the nonprofit foundation. Laura Chambers, a Mozilla board member and entrepreneur with experience at Airbnb, PayPal, and eBay, will step in as interim CEO to run operations until a permanent replacement is found.
Official Blog Post: A New Chapter for Mozilla: Focused Execution and an Expanded Role in Charting the Internet’s Future
“Mozilla now makes most of its almost $600 million in annual revenue from promoting Chrome as the default search engine on its home page.”
Proofreading FTW.
Chrome is just the internet, duh. Do you not support the internet? I have two internets on my computer, in case the first goes down or something. But the one internet hasn’t had any issues, I just keep the second as a backup.
– anyone in US govt
Did the Neutral President write this?
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
All I know is, my gut says maybe.
Mozilla is a for-proifit company!?!
Mozilla Corporation is a corporation, and subsidiary to the Mozilla Foundation.
waif can a non-profit run a for a profit??
Yes. People got to eat.
They’re legit companies, but they do not operate with the goal of profit. Profit is something they may make, and in many cases it’s good so they can survive losses of funding or the like.
It also means they get certain tax advantages because they are not solely focused on profit
Yup, you can run a non-profit foundation with a for-profit corporation as a subsidiary, because capitalism I guess.
The idea was to try to diversify funding in an attempt to deal with the 500 million dollar existential crisis that is the Google deal, which provides the majority of their funding. What that means is that they want to be a self sustaining tech company with annual revenue of $500 million. What that means is inevitably, fuck the mission, the browser, and the users; make money.
Firefox as it stands now is on its last legs, never to return. The only way it could possibly have a real future as a browser with a market share of over 3% is if somebody without a half a billion dollar boat anchor tied to their waste forked it, and that fork managed to amass a sizeable enough team of contributors to actually maintain and iterate on a modern, secure, feature complete web browser that could keep up with Chromium and friends.
I really wish that didn’t seem nearly as unlikely to me as it does.
(imho but I’m just some guy on the internet)
Yesm It is weird, but it would be impossible for a foundation to develop complex software like a Web browser. Engineers cost.
But what do they do?
Mainly develop software, like the Firefox browser.
I am a big fan of Firefox+Thunderbird and subscribe to Pocket, Mozilla VPN and Firefox Relay. I don’t think she was the right CEO for the job, coming into the job because she was needed after the Eich debacle, not because she was the best choice. When I listened or read interviews with her I sensed a lack of focus, which I think came through with the lack of focus and commitment I sense in Firefox’s products. She seems like a better fit for chair of the foundation, pursuing pie in the sky ideas rather than in the trenches trying to rebuild Mozilla’s presence and diversify their revenues. Pocket has stagnated under their care, and actually grown less useful to the point I am considering switching. The Android browser is stuck in time. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Thunderbird has flourished after pursuing a semi-independent structure: they finally had people who actually cared about the product calling the shots.
The Corporation dropped Thunderbird before Eich left, before he made the infamous donation in fact. It floundered until the right people found it, and to be fair the foundation didn’t exactly prioritize that either.
It’s not independent though, it is a fully owned commercial subsidiary of the foundation just like the Corporation is.
I had to stop using Pocket and moved to Raindrop.io because the search on pocket has been soooooo bad.
+1 for Raindrop. Not sure why it gets a low-ish rating cos I find it A* best ever bookmarkign plugin and I’ve been using various ones since early Delicious and Diigo.
Honestly, I have everything organized in there and the search is top tier. I collect a lot of resources I need to reference later and find. My other favourite extension is Unlimited History. It’s so useful when I need to find something.
Stuck in time after the addon thing? It’s an amazing change.
In terms of UI, yes. The addons are years delayed. I am not criticizing the browser in itself, which I enjoy and use daily. But it is lacking in investment, meaning they can’t add features at a competitive rate
They should focus more on their mobile browser. At this point the desktop browser is on par with Chrome. People who use Chrome does it because they don’t care enough about privacy, but on mobile there is a noticeable difference between their performances.
Apple needs to allow 3rd party browser engines.
They will in the EU. Hopefully it’s easy to game the system and sideload a non-safari browser in the future.
This would still force Mozilla to support two browsers on iOS, one for Europe and another for the rest of the world.
Mozilla has 0 browsers for iOS except a skin over Safari.
So really it would just be a browser for the EU and nothing for everyone else.
I think they need to integrate better with their paid offerings to build additional revenue streams. For example, Mozilla VPN works with Container Tabs, but I had to look for it; that’s a pretty killer feature IMO. Make it work on mobile too and a lot of people would be interested. Maybe they could white label a password manager (Bitwarden?) as an alternative to their built-in PW manager service, and make the experience really good. Throw in Relay as well.
There’s a lot they could do with opt-in, privacy-centric features that I would be totally interested in.
Maybe they could white label a password manager (Bitwarden?)
not sure starting at which version, but in android you can set bitwarden as a default password manager system wide which integrates pretty seamlessly with firefox and other apps. only place i know bitwarden doesn’t really integrate well with firefox is on Linux but that seems more due to bitwardens lack of interest to implement freedesktop apis.
i agree though with additional revenue streams, they need to break dependence on Google search engine revenue. maybe spend research on alternative monitization to ads and sponsored content that could be implemented at a browser level and split revenue between browser and websites.
split revenue between browser and websites
Yeah, I was super stoked when Brave announced that, but it went nowhere.
I have ideas here as well. Basically, Firefox would integrate some kind of micro-transaction system where you could load up some amount of money, then you pay per view for a given website and it deducts from that balance, and in exchange you get no paywall or ads. Or if you don’t pay, you’ll see privacy-respecting ads served by Mozilla, and Mozilla would make monthly payments to the website with MTX and ad revenue to preserve privacy.
This would be opt-in by website of course, and hopefully they can get enough websites to opt in to matter. I would be happy to spend like $10/month or whatever to not have any more paywalls and not have to make accounts everywhere.
But yeah, there are a ton of privacy-respecting monetization options, so hopefully the new interim CEO has some ideas. A good model here could attract new users while also securing Mozilla’s revenue for the future.
Honestly I think its the opposite. The UI on desktop look awful and is clunky. The mobile version is nice and pleasant.
I use FF and the desktop and don’t care about the look of the UI. I’m happy FF is fast and doesn’t have memory leaks.
Making the mobile experience better will go further with helping Mozilla in general than making the desktop UI look pretty.
There is no tablet UI (yet, they seem to be finally working on it after years of users waiting). Firefox for Android is clearly languishing, and being lapped by various Chromium-based browsers.
Google and Mozilla in unison, reminded that some crazy people buy tablets: “oh yeah, huh”
Though mobile FF is miles ahead imo, since you can’t have extensions on mobile chrome, it’s not even in the running. FF just launched a few hundred more add-ons for mobile like two months ago, but there have been a dozen+ ones for a few years now. uBO > no uBO, full stop, no question. And Privacy Possum, and Dark Reader, and CleanURLs, and…
E: oh and forks of FF having about:config access is just chefs kiss
Check out Lepton on GitHub - it’s amazing. Very easy to install, open source and makes Firefox look fucking gorgeous.
https://github.com/hackjutsu/Lepton ? I do not follow how this is relevant?
Sorry - for some reason the project is named Lepton, but the repo isn’t? Here it is: https://github.com/black7375/Firefox-UI-Fix
Gotta remember that next time I bring it up!
pivots to data privacy
Should have not named Laura then, just to highlight the point. 😛
Why?
For Laura’s Privacy!
Sorry, it’s a dumb recurring joke among Privacy nerds.
Yeah it was just a silly joke based on how specifically the title was worded. 😅
To protect her privacy, of course
Pivots to data privacy? What was their focus before?
Burning foxes
That’s so messed up. Going to donate all of my money to Opera GX now
Congratulations to Mozilla Corp on escaping its CEO. Another one will inevitably move in, but perhaps it will be someone easier to bear.
That’s honestly a good move. They are a sinking ship and they need to start to swim
That’s silly, ships can’t swim, they’re inanimate objects!
Mozilla is pivoting to privacy or the old CEO is?
Mozilla. They just launched a “delete me” service, and apparently they want to do more of that.
Wow mozilla is getting into euthanasia business?
For others who are curious: https://monitor.mozilla.org/
The new CEO of the corporation.
Chambers says she plans to focus on building out new products that address growing privacy concerns while actively looking for a full-time CEO.
I wonder if they understand themselves what they want with ai and whatever other things they mention for better internet. What other things? At least CEO change could lead to something better lol.
Reading this new CEOs job history on linkedin is kinda infuriating. She goes from intern to head of consumer products at Skype in less than a year. Just… Frustrating to read that while I am and manage really good people who struggle for decades in the trenches to get even paltry job opportunities.
But she got her MBA from Stanford so nepotism ahoy I guess.
How is getting an MBA from Stanford nepotism? She probably worked her ass off not only to earn the degree but to be accepted to the university in the first place. Without knowing anything about her, I’m going to assume she’s a total rockstar until there’s a good reason to believe otherwise.
working hard and nepotism aren’t mutually exclusive
Biggest predictor of future success is the zip code you’re born into.
To your specific point, the preponderance of PERCEIVED hard work in the nepotism community is definitely worth mentioning. Hard work, as an objective measure, would be the exception in this camp.
okay but still where is the nepotism? You’ve commented on the general hypothetical possibility of nepotism not having been dis-proven.
Being at Stanford in and of itself is not nepotism so it’s a pretty fair question to those of us who want words to mean things.
Idk anything about this person in specific but my guess is that @ferralcat is referring to “legacy students”. If you search for that term alone or in combination with “Standford” you can read all about what those words mean. The words have very well-understood meanings. For example:
Nearly 18% of Class of 2023 are legacy students or relatives of donors, report reveals