Open sourcing our server
ente.io
Ente’s servers join our clients - Ente is now fully open source
    • Railcar8095@lemm.eeEnglish
      383·
      8 months ago

      I love immich, but I’m going to settle for something that doesn’t require to modify the compose every couple of months due to breaking changes. Trying to apply changes for two breaking updates in one go killed it for me.

      I’ll check this one for the time being

      • hedgehog@ttrpg.networkEnglish
        62·
        8 months ago

        If you haven’t already ruled it out, I recommend checking out Photoprism. It was the first app I ever self-hosted using Docker and I haven’t needed to change my config because of breaking changes yet.

        • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
          5·
          8 months ago

          Does photoprism support multiple users yet? That was what drove me to immich. But I also don’t love the frequency of breaking changes.

        • anivia@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          8 months ago

          Trying to upload high resolution photos (like the 200mp photos taken with my s23 ultra) completely crashes photoprism for me until I stop the docker container and manually delete the images. That makes it unusable for me

        • Railcar8095@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          8 months ago

          I did use it in the past! I should check it again. I didn’t like how the multi user was planned (basically independent instances), but was long enough things might have changed.

          • hedgehog@ttrpg.networkEnglish
            2·
            8 months ago

            If you need/want a robust multi-user experience, specifically with private personal library support, then Photoprism isn’t going to work, unfortunately.

            • Free:
              • You can create multiple Admin users in the free version, but they all can see and delete everything (unless you don’t give Photoprism delete access)
            • Paid (Essentials or Plus)
              • you can create “User” users who can upload photos - but they still have access to your full library
              • you can create “Viewer” users who can’t see private photos (but they also can’t upload photos).
              • you can share links to albums that are viewable by anyone with the link

            I’ve been using it single user and it’s been great, though I should add the caveat that I upload my photos to my server using Photosync and don’t give Photoprism write/delete access to my library, so no uploads come from it. I had been using Photosync for years before even hearing about Photoprism so it just fit very neatly into my existing process.

            Multi user features are effectively paywalled and not technically FOSS due to not allowing commercial use, but roles are documented at https://docs.photoprism.app/user-guide/users/roles/ and there’s more info at https://docs.photoprism.app/user-guide/users/libraries/

            If Photoprism Plus/Essentials features could work for you, but the ongoing subscription is an issue, then you should know that - unless this has changed - you can sub for one month on Patreon or Github, use the info they provide to upgrade to using the Essentials or Plus features, and then cancel the subscription. I still have an ongoing one but I didn’t connect it to my Patreon account or anything so I don’t think anything would change (except for me no longer getting support, if I needed it) if I canceled it.

      • herrfrutti@lemmy.worldEnglish
        32·
        8 months ago

        I understand this, but that way you always read the update notes and you control what version you install. This can be a good practice.

        That stuff breaks is not so nice though.

      • Lem453@lemmy.caEnglish
        44·
        8 months ago

        The 1.95 update was trivially easy to update with their instructions if you already have the skill to use docker compose.

        • Railcar8095@lemm.eeEnglish
          191·
          8 months ago

          Good, once I can trivially not follow instructions between updates I’ll check it again.

          This is not a criticisms got immich, once they are in the stable phase I’ll try, just I don’t have the time to be checking the notes every update just in case.

          My stack is very large, I rather use sw that requires little to no micromanaging.

  • taaz@biglemmowski.winEnglish
    29·
    8 months ago

    We’ve consolidated all our code into a single repository – just clone ente-io/ente on GitHub, and you will have at your disposal a state of the art, end-to-end encrypted, full stack (mobile/web/desktop clients, the server, and a CLI to boot) alternative to Google Photos and Apple Photos.

    • Moonrise2473@feddit.itEnglish
      53·
      8 months ago

      This seems a disadvantage, a single repo that does everything seems inconvenient and unnecessarily complex for a casual hobbyist that wants to try the project

        • Moonrise2473@feddit.itEnglish
          5·
          8 months ago

          The flutter apps and the electron app are unrelated to the server+web.

          Same for the separate 2fa app

          If you want to contribute to something you need to fork everything.

          Because this contains everything that is served by ente in their commercial offer in the way that’s suited in a professional way (photos stored in S3-like storage on minio server), not just photos, also future projects you might not want to run on your server like ente lock and ente legacy

      • stoicmaverick@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        8 months ago

        I don’t think so Tim! Just stick it all in one repo/compose file and smash the ‘go’ button. Are you paying by the directory or something?

  • HybridSarcasm@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    165·
    8 months ago

    If you really want to serve the self-hosting community, please improve your documentation. As someone unfamiliar with this product, I have no idea what to do with this once I clone the repo. I hunted and found a compose.yaml file, but it’s not clear if this is all I need.

  • cron@feddit.deEnglish
    111·
    8 months ago

    I’m unsure about the end-to-end encryption aspect. While this feature is great for a cloud service like ente.io, it doesn’t really help much in a selfhosted scenario - and might make backups more complicated. Any other opinions on this?

    • helenslunch@feddit.nlEnglish
      33·
      8 months ago

      Would probably be trivial for a local authority to hack your server and collect the necessary info that way.

      I mean that’s the main reason I self-host anyway.

      • cron@feddit.deEnglish
        231·
        8 months ago

        Remotely hacking into my server is probably harder than just walking into my home with a warrant and confiscate everything.

        • helenslunch@feddit.nlEnglish
          8·
          8 months ago

          1. Yes but then they need to get a warrant.

          2. All the more reason to have it encrypted since they can’t access it even with a warrant and confiscation.

    • anivia@lemmy.mlEnglish
      15·
      8 months ago

      Do you want your ISP to be able to spy on your private pictures when uploading them to your self-hosted server? End-to-end encryption is a no-brainer every time you transmit private data online

      • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        8 months ago

        Their model is that the server doesn’t know what the pictures are.

        Which is fine. It’s cool that it exists as an option, especially with someone else hosting your pictures. But it’s not for me. I want my server to see my pictures so it can play with them.

        • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          8 months ago

          so it can play with them

          Papa jpeg: “this little jpeg went to market, this one stayed home, and this one went weeeeeee all the way along the download stream!”

          Other little jpegs: “hoorayyyyyyy”

          • conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            2·
            8 months ago

            lol I want some of them served publicly. And at some point I want to do other processing of the contents of photos.

            I have absolutely no opposition to the existence of an end to end encrypted photo service. If the process of adding new devices is easy enough, it’s what I’d want from someone else hosting. But it’s not what I need for personal hosting.

            Which, again, is fine. There’s absolutely a place for it. But the dude we’re responding to is acting like not doing it is a liability when there’s very good reason not to. (I think it’s because of platforms trying to muddy the water of what end to end encryption means to pretend they do it and confusing him.)

  • sunbeam60@lemmy.oneEnglish
    9·
    8 months ago

    Happy to see some alternatives, but I’m a very happy user of PhotoPrism (+PhotoSync) so will stay there for now. Agreed that encrypted at rest isn’t all that helpful for a self-hoster.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
    317·
    8 months ago

    The first two things I saw:

    • docker seems to be required
    • the download page seems to require javascript

    Too much neu hype. Done.