I love the original patientgamers subreddit so I was stoked to find this community. And because lemmy seems to have a more knowledgeable crowd any topic I posted here had great engagement and discussions, despite the small community. I am too busy to be a mod but maybe I can help by sparking this discussion: what would be needed to keep this sub going?

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    We’ve had trouble over at true gaming getting things cooking as well. Maybe I can reach out to the mods and see if there’s some cooperation to be had here as we’re likely too fragmented at present. I’ll talk to our mod team today and see if we can think of something.

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        Also, on the user side of that, for when someone doesn’t use said syntax, note that there’s a Firefox, Chrome, and Edge extension, “Instance Assistant for Lemmy & Kbin”, where one can set one’s home instance. It’ll add a button in the sidebar in threads on remote instances where one can just click on “view in my home instance”.

        !instance_assistant@lemmy.ca

        https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lemmy-instance-assistant/

        https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/instance-assistant-for-le/mbblbalkjcikhpladidpimlfiapdffdh

        https://microsoftedge.microsoft.com/addons/detail/instance-assistant-for-le/hnlndgeokcaocdklkbfjbfjplfnedehb

        https://github.com/cynber/lemmy-instance-assistant

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          Finally got around to trying that extension out. And wow was it significantly less useful than I was expecting.

          I was first offput by its settings page. “Home instance” is clear enough, but then it also needs a list of instances to “change display”. No idea what that’s supposed to do.

          But the real problem is that it doesn’t actually do anything useful. Yeah if I’m on lemmy.world/c/patientgamers@sh.itjust.works, I can click it and be taken to aussie.zone/c/patientgamers@sh.itjust.works, but I can do that really easily manually. The actual useful convenient thing would be if I were at https://lemmy.world/post/14353571 and clicking the button took me to https://aussie.zone/post/8919002

          But instead, clicking the button displays this popup:

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        I know that works for Kbin users, but I’m not always 100% clear on what works for other instances, so I just go with my old habit of linking the URL. Sounds like that’s a bad habit though! Appreciate the tip

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          It works on both kbin and lemmy. And if it works on kbin, I assume that it works on mbin, given that that’s a fork.

          No idea for piefed and sublinks.

          I’m pretty sure at this point that the bang syntax has enough inertia that if a given Threadiverse server implementation doesn’t support it, it should. I don’t think that the syntax is particularly flawed. Well, other than that it doesn’t directly map to the URL’s syntax, a la the Reddit convention of “/r/foo” or the kbin convention of “/b/”, which might make it less-intuitive.

          Hmm. Actually, this should be pretty easy to test, because…the magic of the Threadiverse’s guest access and federation.

          Works on Kbin!

          https://kbin.social/m/patientgamers@sh.itjust.works/t/964745/How-to-revitalize-this-sub#entry-comment-6217166

          Works on Piefed!

          https://piefed.social/post/88672#post_replies

          I don’t know of an active sublinks instance, and nobody on fedia.io – the largest mbin instance – appears to presently be subscribed to !patientgamers@sh.itjust.works.

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            Alright I’m probably being a dummy. Nothing happens when I do !truegaming - would love some assistance because clearly, I have less of a grasp on this platform than I thought I did. I used to know this lol

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              So, the syntax is:

              !truegaming@kbin.social

              That yields:

              !truegaming@kbin.social

              On lemmy instances, the visible text is “!” and then “truegaming@kbin.social”.

              On kbin instances – and I really think that this should be changed – the instance renders the visible text to be “!” and then “truegaming”.

              Both still create a valid link to it if you use the syntax with the appended “@instancename”. Just on kbin, you don’t get to see what someone actually typed. You can hover the mouse over it to see the instance to which it’s linking.

              Here’s a direct link to kbin.social to see what my comment looks like there:

              comment link

              And here’s a direct link to my home instance, lemmy.today, to see what it looks like there:

              https://lemmy.today/comment/7669420

              checks

              Hmm. No, actually, kbin appears to be mangling the rendering, but that’s apparently because it’s breaking on the blockquote text, not the link syntax.

              looks exasperated

              Okay. Let me see if I can fix the blockquote bit.

              EDIT: Working. It looks like kbin blows up if you stick the bang syntax in a “four leading spaces from the beginning of the line” blockquote, but is okay if you surround the text by backticks. The kbin guys oughta fix that. But…the link should work fine in normal text. Just becomes an issue if you’re trying to show people what the actual syntax is.

              EDIT2: No, dammit. It’s still broken on kbin. I know that this can work, because my other comment in the thread about Instance Assistant renders using bang syntax just fine on kbin and uses the same syntax. Hmm.

              Well, I am thinking that there is something broken kbin side. Maybe report the comment as a bug to the kbin guys (or if they’re overloaded – I understand that Ernest got kind of overwhelmed – maybe the mbin guys, as I am assuming that they can pull patches from each other).

              EDIT3: It apparently works fine on mbin, so I’m assuming that they’ve already patched whatever bug is on kbin:

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                On kbin instances…the instance renders the visible text to be “!” and then “truegaming”

                Holy shit that is so bad. Like, just an inexcusably awful user experience, that cannot possibly have any effect but to cause confusion.

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                Perfect thank you! I bounce between Memmy app and mobile version of kbin so I get turned around a lot.

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      Even if it makes sense to have all of them, becuase they have different-but-similar purposes or goals, maybe they can crosslink to each other in their sidebars. Some subreddits have had luck cross-promoting like that.