• Liz@midwest.social
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    6 months ago

    I mean, all choices have tradeoffs, right? You might clear the leaves faster, but everyone else has to listen to the loud-ass blower and deal with just that little bit more pollution. In my opinion it would be better to have a hard noise pollution limit. If your blower is too loud (and it probably would be) you can still clear the leaves with a rake and the rest of us can live more peaceful lives.

    I’m literally writing this comment listening to a leaf blower outside my house. I live in the suburbs. It’s usually louder outside my house than it is inside my house, thanks to the road noise and lawncare. That’s just not right.

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      6 months ago

      It’s usually louder outside my house than it is inside my house

      Isn’t this what you would expect almost anywhere, unless you live with someone who is unusually noisy? Even when I lived somewhere where I usually heard only natural sounds, it was louder outside my house than it was inside because of the ducks, chipmunks, cicadas, etc.

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          6 months ago

          Ever been right next to a tractor trailer or other heavy equipment the city uses? It’s all around 100db so unless you want absolutely nothing, not even buses. Thats not realistic.

          They also need to account for construction, your house was built with equipment louder than leaf blowers for example. So how would your house be here with more restrictive sound limits.

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            Ever been right next to a tractor trailer or other heavy equipment the city uses? It’s all around 100db so unless you want absolutely nothing, not even buses. Thats not realistic.

            Yes, and they’re usually gone in 30ish seconds. Those guys with leaf blowers run them a lot longer than that.

            They also need to account for construction, your house was built with equipment louder than leaf blowers for example. So how would your house be here with more restrictive sound limits.

            I bet if you plotted the noise, it would be numerous peaks and valleys of sound. Leaf blowers are a continuous solid line of noise.

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              If there’s peak and valleys the people aren’t working consistently…

              An excavator or compactor are constant noise all day if they are working effectively. Other than lunch breaks, but sometime they rotate so the expensive equipment doesn’t sit.

              No one is gonna pay $300 an hour for equipment and it stay idle 50% of the day, just pissing money away dude.

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                If there’s peak and valleys the people aren’t working consistently…

                So when you work your job your output is 100% all the time? No, there’s peaks and valleys in your work. Same with construction.

                An excavator or compactor are constant noise all day if they are working effectively. Other than lunch breaks, but sometime they rotate so the expensive equipment doesn’t sit.

                Sure, but how long are they onsite for? Not the entire project. Why?

                No one is gonna pay $300 an hour for equipment and it stay idle 50% of the day, just pissing money away dude.

                Exactly. Which means peaks and valleys in sound. That excavator and compactor get shut off when they’re not in use.

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                  Exactly. Which means peaks and valleys in sound. That excavator and compactor get shut off when they’re not in use.

                  So at the end of a 12 hour shift…. They sit at a constant rev all day so the oils and hydraulics don’t get cold and stiff, it’s also terrible for seals to be constantly dried out from starts and stops.

                  You’re being disingenuous about the actual severity and longevity of construction projects and equipment.

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                    6 months ago

                    You’re being disingenuous about the actual severity and longevity of construction projects and equipment.

                    Or we’re misunderstanding each other and talking about two different types of construction (residential vs commercial) 😁

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        6 months ago

        Sorry, perhaps that want great communication on my part. “Hard limit” as in, “very restrictive.” I.E. If your equipment isn’t quiet, it ain’t allowed to run.

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            We can make an exception for “one time” tools or locations that have no reasonable quiet alternative. Lawn mowers, leaf blowers, cars, motorcycles, and so forth are all examples of regular use tools, while a literal jack-hammer is not. Simply designate an area a construction area and a different set of noise and safety laws would apply.

            Of course it’s possible to build a building quietly, but even I recognize that it would be unreasonable to ask people to do so.