• brb@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    The constant spam of murica politics, linux evangelists and the lack of niche communities have almost made me stop using lemmy. Almost because there just isn’t any alternatives.

  • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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    4 months ago

    Overall since November, its been trending upwards. Given the big spike in March, I think its only natural some people realize they didn’t want to be here in the couple months that follow.

    Also there’s bit of a controversial topic lately that has made a certain demographic feel like this place is about as unwelcoming to them as much of the internet.

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      4 months ago

      Also there’s bit of a controversial topic lately that has made a certain demographic feel like this place is about as unwelcoming to them as much of the internet.

      Genuinely asking, is it about the bear? I saw a post about it in !unpopularopinion@lemmy.world the other day, I felt sorry for women who encountered such toxicity

      • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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        4 months ago

        That is what I am referring to. And the broader attention it has brought to the topic of misogyny in general, even when bears aren’t really the topic of discussion. From pull request discussions to discussions about misogyny vs misandry, it seems like a lot more popular topic lately.

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    4 months ago

    I think the extremist politics on here drive people away. I don’t even tell anyone I use Lemmy because of that.

    Hexbear is obviously the worst, but Lemmy.ml is also openly spreading propaganda.

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      4 months ago

      Not just the politics, but the news threads I feel have degenerated into ragebait topics with shallow conversation. I used to find a conversation or 2 a day to participate in, but now I don’t want to touch many news or politics threads.

    • smoothbrain coldtakes@lemmy.ca
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      4 months ago

      This is pretty much my beef with Lemmy.

      The fact that the development team is also the ownership and administration of the instance spreading propaganda is just absolutely insane to me.

      Vote logs just show them supporting the extremist behavior.

    • Blaze@reddthat.comOP
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      4 months ago

      I see where you come from, my usual advice to new joiners is to block hexbear and to avoid news and political communities

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        4 months ago

        It’s hard… when a user blocks an instance, the propaganda still shows up when the offending users comment on other instances.

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            4 months ago

            A mute is not the same as an outright block.

            Muting effectively just means you don’t see the instances posts, but you can see the users comments if they are federated with your instance. For example, I have kbin blocked, but I can still interact with kbin users - when they reply to my comments or posts, which they can still do, I simply just don’t get a notification for it.

            Dessalines doesn’t care about stuff like this. Beehaw has been asking for proper moderation tools forever and effectively just told to get fucked every time.

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              4 months ago

              Beehaw is still using version 0.18.4 which will soon celebrate its first birthday. We made countless moderation improvements since then, but of course Beehaw won’t get those if they refuse to upgrade.

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                4 months ago

                .ml is basically just as bad.

                Most instances are totally defederated from Hexbear. They’re not my problem at all. My problem is literally the development team and their willingness to not only accept but further the cause of propaganda through their instance’s curated biases.

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    4 months ago

    Some of the dropoff is likely due to college being out for the northern hemisphere summer, and just less people online due to the nice weather. Reddit sees a similar seasonal change I believe

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      OKAY I didn’t think this was unique to me. I seem to have been muted for pretty innocent stuff? I have been muted at least 6 times. The posting bans have lasted anywhere from a couple days to a couple weeks. It’s very frustrating when you type out a well thought-out comment, click to submit, and it never posts. 😑 I try to select all & copy my comment before I submit.

      If I know some mod has muted me, I just comment ‘A’ on random posts to see if I’m allowed to speak again. If it doesn’t post successfully, ban remains in effect. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

      It almost has to be a muting ban of sorts, because I can’t post on my main but on a secondary I can post just fine. I haven’t left Lemmy (yet…) because I’m not going back to Reddit & aside from this, Lemmy is a decent substitute. Lemmy has been really frustrating, trying to be a member of the community. Forced into being a lurker six different times by some anonymous coward(s). Not knowing when your ban will be lifted.

      If my theories are correct, I’d like a little more transparency in the process. Who issues the muting bans, WHY, and when the talking ban will expire. It can be a simple, private direct message. “Butthurt Bob has muted you for: hurting his fee-fees. Butthurt Bob’s ban will last 6 days.”

      • Blaze@reddthat.comOP
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        4 months ago

        Both of you seem to be on Lemmy world, is there a technical issue on their side?

        About your last point, you should be able to see exactly that in the modlog (orange button in community sidebars)

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    4 months ago

    A lot of users being centralized on Lemmy.ml doesn’t help, lot of toxicity comes from there and you can’t just block the instance unless you also want to lose a lot of content in your feed

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      4 months ago

      Most of the .ml communities have a .world equivalent that is usually more active, but I see your point

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      The problem is that the average user on Reddit doesn’t give a fuck about the ways the platform is shooting itself in the foot, because it’s still functional, has a critical mass of users, and is still the de facto online global discussion forum.

      Lemmy doesn’t serve the function well enough because there are not enough of a variety of users driving niche topics. It’s the same dozen topics I see every day. Star Trek memes, Linux discourse, data breach reports, stupid bullshit about Musk, incredibly biased political content and straight up propaganda; it gets extremely tiring to see the same stuff over and over knowing that’s just what the current userbase enjoys discussing. It also doesn’t help that the development team tacitly endorses the extremist propaganda spreading behavior on their server. You can go check mod and vote logs and see the development team actively encouraging all of this destructive behavior across the fediverse.

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        Star Trek memes, Linux discourse, data breach reports, stupid bullshit about Musk, incredibly biased political content and straight up propaganda; it gets extremely tiring to see the same stuff over and over

        Agreed, it’s tiring, that’s why I recommend blocking all of these.

        Then stuff like !gardening@lemmy.world or !map_enthusiasts@sopuli.xyz starts to show up