• MiltownClowns@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend. He may not agree with me 100% but he does 90%. When you’ve got a problem this large that affects this many people we can’t start excluding allies because they don’t subscribe to the groupthink 100%.

    • mo_ztt ✅@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, 100%. He talks about welfare in a way I don’t agree with, but I put that in the same bucket as I do someone on the left who thinks that every single policeman is some kind of wife-beating dog-shooter. That’s your view, and I don’t agree, but we’re still allies.

      A huge part of the problem is this country is that the right wing getting fucked by the man, and the left wing getting fucked by the man, like to battle with each other instead of with the man. I think the man creates a huge amount of propaganda that induces that situation, for obvious reasons, but that doesn’t mean we need to feed into it (which again is why this whole video infuriates me.)

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      1 year ago

      I disagree pretty hard on this. Oliver Anthony and my views on corruption at the federal level don’t align whatsoever, even if we ultimately end up with nearly the same conclusion. He spends more time blaming people on welfare for the struggles of other working-class people without providing a reason why they’re responsible. And where he could spend time deriding politicians for accepting corporate buyouts to strengthen their iron grip on the working class, he simply says politicians ignore the working class because they’re too busy visiting Epstein island. Which, while not wrong, ultimately ignores that politicians are corrupt due to corporate buyouts - a consequence of capitalism. It’s a song - sure, maybe nothing’s literal. But I don’t consider Oliver Anthony’s views and my own views to be compatible, even if we end up with near the same conclusion.

      Additionally, I would urge others to not feel like they must accept others’ viewpoints just because they end up near the same place, because co-opting the language and causes of the left is a legitimate tactic the far right uses to gain legitimacy. Think of how TERFs co-opted the feminist movement to make their hatred of trans people sound like it’s coming from a place of “feminist consciousness.” Songs like “Rich Men North of Richmond” do the same thing, but they’ll make it sound like a burning hatred of “the undeserving” (coming from the pot shots at people on welfare) comes from a place of class consciousness.