• bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
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      4 months ago

      The Turing Test (as some people believe it to be): if you can have a conversation with a computer and not tell if it’s a computer, then it must be intelligent.

      AI companies: writes ML model that is specifically designed to convincingly play one side of a conversation, even though it has no ability to understand the things it talks about.

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    Much like IQ tests for humans are flawed too. Figuring out series of numbers or relations in a graphic representation, only tells how good you are at these specific tasks, and doesn’t provide a reliable picture of “general” intelligence.

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    “close to meaningless” sums up my expert opinion on the whole current AI hype machine sales pitch.

    Highly tuned models for incredibly specific, not-dangerous use cases is the next pragmatic step. There’s a lot to excited about, in that very narrow band.

    Anyone selling more than that is part of a con, or in very rare cases, doing genuine “fuck off and ask me again in a decade” kinds of research.

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    Looks quite satisfying to me, otherwise, we can still create new tests … :

    The tests cover an astounding range of knowledge, such as eighth-grade math, world history, and pop culture. Many are multiple choice, others take free-form answers. Some purport to measure knowledge of advanced fields like law, medicine and science. Others are more abstract, asking AI systems to choose the next logical step in a sequence of events, or to review “moral scenarios” and decide what actions would be considered acceptable behavior in society today.

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    The article makes the valid argument that LLMs simply predict next letters based on training and query.

    But is that actually true of latest models from OpenAI, Claude etc?

    And even if it is true, what solid proof do we have that humans aren’t doing the same? I’ve met endless people who could waffle for hours without seeming to do any reasoning.

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      Information theory, entropy in Markovian processes. Read up on these buzzwords to see why.

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        I think I know enough about these concepts to know that there isn’t any conclusive proof, observed in output or system state, to establish consensus that human speech output is generated differently to how LLMs generate output. If you have links to any papers that claim otherwise, I’ll be happy to read them.

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              Evidence for what?

              I’ve just diagonally read a google link where the described way humans work with language appears for me to be very similar to GPT in rough strokes. Only human brain does a lot more than language. Hence the comparisons to the mechanical Turk.

              Also Russell’s teapot.

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                I’m not saying humans and LLMs generate language the same way.

                I’m not saying humans and LLMs don’t generate language the same way.

                I’m saying I don’t know and I haven’t seen clear data/evidence/papers/science to lean one way or the other.

                A lot of people seem to believe humans and LLMs don’t generate language the same way. I’m challenging that belief in the absence of data/evidence/papers/science.

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                  Like going out and meeting a dino - 50% yes, 50% no. It’s a joke.

                  Russell’s teapot again.