“It would be great if people had to buy more of the thing,” says guy who makes money selling the thing.

  • WagesOf@artemis.camp
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    1 year ago

    They’re all digital only now. There’s no reason, at all, to have optical drives in consoles. With the advent of direct nvme to video memory you have to load content to the nvme anyway because spinning g plastic sucks soooo much. Today SD is actually cheaper per gb than Blu-ray.

    Want to purchase a physical copy? Buy it on a SD card and get a $10 usb SD card reader, which will be compatible with every console anyway.

    My prediction will be that the next gen (PS6) will go 100% download only, get shat on then start up a service with gamestop or someone to distro encrypted game installs onto WHATEVER usb media you bring in.

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      Today SD is actually cheaper per gb than Blu-ray.

      Just checked Amazon prizes for the first best SD card and Bluray disc. This is a lie. Discs are still less than half the prize.

      And you didn’t take into consideration that it’s much cheaper and faster to press the data onto the disc than writing on an SD card when you do that in great numbers.

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        You should check prices on the 2GB SD cards not the high end ones because the disks usually contain that much or less. Most AAA games only have the game INSTALLER on the disk, and still require you to download the game in order to play it.

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        30 second search at 100gb (modern AAA games and the biggest Bluray)

        Bluray is $10 a disc, microsd is $8 and you get 128gb and can get bigger media, which doesn’t exist for Bluray.

        That doesn’t account for mass production, fewer people care about physical media with every passing year.

        Physical media will still exist, but it won’t be optical. Opticals advantages over cart just don’t exist anymore. You don’t include a $80+ part on the bom when less than 5% of your users want it and that 5% can get a bog standard usb device that can be had for $10

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          Its incredibly niave to think it costs Sony, co-developer of blu-ray, $10 to press a game onto a blu-ray disc. Its probably costs a dollar or less to manufacturer a disc by bow. They can sell blurray movies for $9.99 and still profit.

          It will definitely be cheaper for Sony to stick with optical discs next gen if they don’t drop the drive entirely.

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            It’s also dumb to expect they’ll be paying retail for microsd or whatever usb flash sticks they decive to use.

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          MicroSD is not comparable to the flash memory on NVME SSDs.

          Bluray is $10 a disc

          Bluray hasn’t been $10 a disc since maybe 2003. Bluray discs are literally pennies to a manufacturer like Sony.

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            Nobody said it was. It’s a medium to get games from a brick and mortar store to install onto the nvme on the console you can’t play modern games directly from Bluray either.

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      You are mixing having your own physical copy with needing to run games straight from the disk. Nevermind that there’s no reason that games couldn’t be sold on faster cartridges, you can still have a physical media that can install a game into the console. Offline, without relying on an online service that will inevitably close eventually.

      As it is, with disks and cartridges, they can’t make it so absolutely every game must check with their online services. They have to make sure grandma in the boonies can make little Timmy’s game work right out of the box. Without them, there’s nothing stopping them. They could even straight up say that “no game could be expected to last more than 10 years”, and I see enough people that already seem ready to fall for that. Nevermind that to this day there’s people playing the nearly 40 year old Super Mario Bros.

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        They have to make sure grandma in the boonies can make little Timmy’s game work right out of the box.

        …and yet, most AAA games cannot do this, and require you to go online and download the game assets after you put the disk in the console.

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          I literally just replied to you about this and I don’t know where you are getting it from. Games may ask for updates but games that are unplayable without downloads are very much the exception.