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Cake day: June 14th, 2023

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  • Fair enough, my more nuanced opinion is that there is a large number of people who do give to charity, feel good about it, spread the opinion that it’s a feel good thing, and do indirectly cause voters to feel like they already give enough money to charity and higher taxes are unfair. I am aware this opinion is unpopular, hence the post to get it off my chest haha

    People participating in charity aren’t wrong, just the perception that it’s something to advocate people giving to, without also advocating for stronger public services in the same breath.

    My title was perhaps a little click-baity.

    I don’t dislike charity, I dislike people (and charities) encouraging others to give money to charity, without also advocating for better public services via taxation. And many, many charities don’t do this, which I don’t understand since many charities also get public funding (at least in my state of Victoria, Australia, they do)

    This opinion is also subject to the relative stability of the government you live under. In my case, very stable, and totally doable.



  • I’m not advocating for doing nothing (and appreciate the way you phrased your criticism giving me the benefit of the doubt)

    I think specifically my position is that the solution is political, and a better motivated voting base, who understands the value of not reducing taxes and public funding.

    I don’t think (all) charities are a waste, and think many orgs do a decent job.

    However, I think I didn’t make it clear that I find people feeling good about giving to charity, and encouraging others to do so by framing it as a “feel good” thing, rubs me the wrong way because I believe charities who perform core functions are a symptom of the fact we’re underfunding vital services.

    I’m not telling people to not donate to charity, but I think it’s high time people stop believing that they’ve done their part for society, when voting to fix the system (absolutely, 100% possible where I’m from, which is Australia, one of the wealthiest countries in the world) would be much, much, more impactful that giving some money to a charity.


  • Yeah it’s better than nothing, and I’m not entirely against giving to charity. I’m mostly mad that people (most) seem to have the opinion that the act of donating to a charity is something to feel good about.

    Because it’s not good. And often I would argue people giving to charity makes them feel good in a way that’s actually unhelpful if they then vote for parties who minimise tax and defund the services that then the charities need to do even more of.

    If someone has money to donate, I’d argue this is money much better spent on advocacy groups to fight for those systematic changes, rather than the service itself.

    The ones who do both, yeah, that’s also great.

    I take your point, and do agree charities do good, and that in a society where it’s not fixed, giving something to charity can do good. Just that I’m sick of people feeling too good about it.


  • Yeah, and again, I will reiterate that many organisations do good work. However, my specific unpopular opinion is that I dislike that people think charity isn’t a symptom of a failed system.

    I dislike that people feel good about it. Rather than question why we’re raising money for men’s health in the first place.

    Charity for the purposes of fundraising for things which ought to be provided by the state, isn’t just not perfect, I’d even say it’s bad. It perpetuates the status quo of underfunding vital publically funded good. Because people feel good about it, then go about their day and vote for fuckers who promise them tax cuts.

    And trust me, I live in a country that could absolutely afford to fund a more universal public health system and research (per capita).


  • My favourite was when I was donating to a environmental advocacy organisation, I specially requested they don’t mail me anything. Called up and everything.

    Guess what showed up, and then showed up 1 last time after I cancelled my regular donation 👍👍

    Not to say they were a bad organisation, just I thought it was pretty funny considering the topic.


  • I should clarify, that I’m specifically talking about charity events/organisations to raise money for something that really ought to be publicly funded, or perform work that ought to be provided by the government.

    I donate blood, I think people getting together to help others is fantastic, and of course not every bit of community support needs to be provided by the government.

    But I think things like healthcare, homelessness, research etc shouldn’t need to beg for money. It should be taken out of people’s taxes











  • I haven’t read much on the topic, so forgive me for my ramble:

    I agree with this sentiment. And find myself particularly cringing to people I agree with, espousing something as a FACT, as a part of their argument.

    To me, science (my personal philosophy) is the best way we have to determine what is likely to be true, and the best way we have to describe the world in which we live.

    When people start saying things like “and that’s a FACT” like it somehow makes their position more credible, annoys me greatly.

    Getting ahead of the semantics, I don’t have an issue with the word itself, as being “something true”. Just that when people use it as something being self-evident. And I see it happening a lot, even with people saying something I agree with.