The animal abuse alleged at the time was that there was supposedly no healthy vegan cat food.

While the section of the rules was the same (violent content), animal abuse was a separate sentence, not the one about visual depictions:

No visual content depicting executions, murder, suicide, dismemberment, visible innards, excessive gore, or charred bodies. No content depicting, promoting or enabling animal abuse. No erotic or otherwise suggestive media or text content featuring depictions of rape, sexual assault, or non-consensual violence. All other violent content should be tagged NSFW.

This is the exact same paragraph we have today and we had before these changes.

If there was no healthy vegan cat food then this would be considered content enabling animal abuse.

The ToS had no rules on misinformation at the time.

it still had rules about animal abuse, which this misinformation, had it actually been misinformation, would have lead to. while the removal reason could have been more clear, the justification was still covered by our ToS.

new rules created to back their talking points

the additional rules provided more clarification on what we intend to achieve with them, but they would not be required. based on what we know today the removal was neither justified by the original ToS nor by the updated ones.

I never said that it only requires harm down the road.

Cutting body parts off or even just cutting them without good medical reason (e.g. risk of death without amputation) is of course also animal abuse.

For hiding pain, you’re attacking a strawman, because I already addressed that in my previous comment.

we do not consider feeding a cat vegan food as animal abuse, provided there are no health issues arising from this.

most of the research i’ve looked at seems to point out that there are various pitfalls, e.g. just feeding a cat vegetables will result in malnutrition. having synthetic additives for this can be one way to address that problem. just because something is sold as vegan cat food that doesn’t necessarily imply that it’s healthy for the cat, as some of the articles were pointing out that some of the cheaper ones were lacking the right ingredients.

as an example, “my cat now only gets potatoes and apples and nothing else” would be considered animal abuse.

additionally, if moderators were to remove arguments pointing out the risks of e.g. missing nutrients in a civil discussion and leaving the other side that just argues “vegan cat food works” without any arguments as is then we would also consider this animal abuse.

in this specific incident the conversation was certainly not civil, which is unfortunate, as this situation would likely have gone a very different way if it was.

you may have been thinking of https://poliverso.org/objects/0477a01e-1166-c773-5a67-70e129601762, which was neither lemmy devs, mastodon devs nor lemmy.world admins

the bot has been marked as bot since the very beginning and is also clearly marked as bot in the screenshot, so your comment does not apply here.

no, the join was bad

we were only counting users active in the last 6 months (based on lemmys active user stats) for this calculation. with the update to lemmy 0.19 back in march 2FA for all existing users was reset, so all users that had 2fa set up before and never reactivated it wouldn’t count towards this, nor would users that weren’t active at all since then.

2FA has been restored for all LW users that had it enabled before and didn’t reactivate it on their own since.

There will be an announcement posted later on explaining what happened.

edit: announcement is out: https://lemmy.world/post/18503967

2FA has been restored for all LW users that had it enabled before and didn’t reactivate it on their own since.

There will be an announcement posted later on explaining what happened.

edit: announcement is out: https://lemmy.world/post/18503967

this is a separate issue unrelated to the 0.19 update.

this was not a Lemmy bug.

This was unfortunately an error on our end.

Please bear with us while we work on resolving this situation.

Hi,

this was unfortunately an error on our end.

Please bear with us while we work on resolving this situation.

Us not upgrading has nothing to do with making a point.

We’re aiming to run a stable instance, which can come at the cost of delayed updates.

We didn’t update to 0.19.4, and a few weeks later 0.19.5 was released with a number of critical bugfixes.

0.19.6 will have several more fixes for issues introduced in 0.19.4+, such as a fix for remote moderators updating local communities, allowing admins to filter modlog entries by moderator, as well as some performance issues reported by other instances.

We usually wait for other instances to run the latest version for some time to allow bug reports to surface before we update ourselves.

I’m a member of the Lemmy.World admin team.

Also, anyone can look at the moderation log at https://lemmy.world/modlog

It depends on who you’re trying to message.

Devs: https://join-lemmy.org/contact
Admins of Lemmy.World: see the post that @Deestan@lemmy.world linked already
Admins of piefed.social: https://piefed.social/about
Community moderators: check the community sidebar, it will show the moderator list

Your Lemmy.World account has been unbanned a couple days ago btw.

It’s not automatic, admins have the option to ban with or without content removal.

Different instances deal with this differently and admins are also humans that sometimes make mistakes. Especially during holiday season there are frequently trolls running around with racist, transphobic or other offensive content. Sometimes they’re more obvious, sometimes they try to fly under the radar a bit by being less direct. In the end you’re at the mercy of the instance admins of the instance you signed up with and many instances will provide contact information to appeal bans.

Since this account was not a Lemmy.World account it’s not up to us to decide whether or not the user should be banned and whether their content should be removed.

If you’re referring to the post Ex Redditors of Lemmy what made you come on over? What happened at Reddit that you made the switch?, their account was banned for trolling and all content associated with the account was removed.

They also had a number of other posts that seemed to be doing just fine, so it might be falling in the “stupid kid” category.

The post has since been restored by a community moderator, although the user’s account on lemmy.ml is still banned: https://lemmy.world/post/17593614

image proxying is currently not usable for us anyway, see e.g. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4874