Thanks!

So, “what can we do now” posts are okay?

Kind of the theme of the week, no?

I read the cliffs notes. I’ll look into it. Thanks!

That seems like a thing that should not be.

And part of me feels it would be well earned, right? Not the best part of me.

I’ve been seriously struggling with the idea that the changes that are about to come are going to destroy what chances we had left to recover this world from the damage our species has done.

You’re welcome internet stranger.

It was a joke. By the time that’s a problem I’ll be dead you’ll be dead. IBDYBD

So it’d hasten Idiocracy? Kinda a IBDYBD problem I suppose.

Seriously though, I think the key would be to drive enough engagement with this so that this in combination with the obvious financial hardships that everyone’s facing completely annihilates the birth rate.

Maybe.

Total votes cast: 143,000,000

Percentage of voters who are women: 54%

Number of female voters: 143,000,000 × 0.54 = 77,220,000

Percentage of women who voted for Harris: 54%

Estimated number of women who voted for Harris: 77,220,000 × 0.54 ≈ 41,698,800

This is a rough estimate. More complete data will become available later.

I think that’s enough people to have an impact

1. Assumptions:

We assume that 41.7 million women strictly adhere to the B4 movement.

This group represents a significant share of women of childbearing age (usually defined as 15-44 years in demographic studies).

We estimate the average U.S. woman has around 1.7 children over her lifetime, aligning with current U.S. fertility rates.

2. Impact on Births:

41.7 million women choosing not to have children would mean approximately 1.7 fewer children per woman, over their lifetimes.

This would potentially prevent around 70.9 million births (41.7 million x 1.7) in the long term, assuming these women otherwise would have had children.

3. Annual Impact:

Spread over an average reproductive lifetime (roughly 30 years), this impact would reduce the birth rate by about 2.36 million births annually (70.9 million divided by 30 years).

Annual U.S. births could drop from 3.6 million to approximately 1.24 million, which is a ~65% decrease in the birth rate.

Once the birth rate drops enough, it won’t matter how many incels there are, the economy crashes without kids.

Not all of em! According to the exit poll data, 44% of women voted for Donald Trump in the 2024 presidential election, 54% voted for Harris. I think that’s enough to make a difference. 🤷

https://www.nbcwashington.com/decision-2024/2024-voter-turnout-election-demographics-trump-harris/3762138/

I can’t imagine having to make that decision.

Begrudgingly upvoted

Tis but a joke. She laughed when I suggested it, so I doubt it’ll come to pass.

E: I might wear the costume though. That could be fun.

I know what my wife’s Halloween costume is going to be next year. That’s all I’m saying.

Well, I’m pretty sure you’re right about South Korea. I don’t see that as a reason not to try though. I can only hope that you’re wrong about America. I appreciate the insight.

E: Even if it isn’t super effective, every little bit helps.

It seems to have had the desired effect elsewhere. Also I’m not sure if it’s required for women to be a monolithic group. This assumption is based on the gender divide in the current election. Regardless, Trump’s policies are going to have a natural impact and decreasing birth rate just due to financial strain so if there are multiple factors that are impacting the numbers that’s all the better right?

https://www.iar-gwu.org/blog/iar-web/south-koreas-4b

I was worried I wouldn’t live to meet my grandkids because of health issues. Guess I don’t have to worry about that anymore, it’ll be climate now. Fuck.