This sorted it, thanks very much. I had tried it with both direct and alexandrite so i thought it something more serious than a simple cookie clear so didnt even try that

Nah it wasnt that, i have a backup account on lemmy.world that i used for posting this, but i couldnt get to any content or even login on feddit - however a post here suggested the upgrade needed a cookie clear and that’s resolved it :)

Expanding foam all day long