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  • mintyfrog@lemmy.mltoUnited States | News & Politics@lemmy.ml*Permanently Deleted*
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    11 months ago

    Saying death to an ethnostate does not mean death to the people in it

    It does when civilians are being killed.

    One of those parties is a colonial occupier, the other an occupied people resisting state violence. I can support one and not the other.

    Your support for Palestine doesn’t make “death to Israel” not antisemitic.

    Death to Israel is not antisemetic, because despite the europeans wrapping it in the trappings of jewishness, it isn’t all jews, doesn’t speak for all jews

    Just because Israel doesn’t represent all Jews doesn’t absolve you of antisemitism for wishing death upon Israel. It is majority Jewish, and just above you have stated that the problems are all caused by the “European colony” of Jews. You’re mad at Israel because of those Jews, but not the Jews you like? This was common Nazi apologist rhetoric under Hitler.

    Israel systematically disenfranchises non-jews and sterilizes non-white jews.

    1. The story isn’t as simple as you’ve described it.
    2. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

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    11 months ago

    state of Israel is a genocidal ethnostate

    You’re now admitting that Israel is a Jewish state despite trying to claim otherwise for this entire thread.

    Israel kills way more Palestinian civilians every day

    Two wrongs don’t make a right. Israel is doing horrible things, but it doesn’t deflect from the fact that “death to Israel” is antisemitic.

    Before the European colony arrived, Jews, Christians and Muslims co-existed in Palestine.

    Well, they aren’t coexisting now. Sorry, can’t go back in time. We solve problems of today because it is impossible to make things the way they once were. And which “European colony” are you referring to? The Jews? I thought this wasn’t about them? Dog whistle.

    the Iraq invasion was … informed by … islamophobia

    But by your own logic, I thought a government is different from the major racial/religious group of its people? We can’t say it was Islamaphobic just because the people there tend to be majority Muslim, right? We’d need other context, like… above.

    hardly the equivalent of an occupied people resisting that occupation

    I never said that Palestine doesn’t have a right to resist its occupation.

    You’ve taken this argument far away from “death to Israel” not being antisemitic because you’re trying to argue that Palestine should exist. I’m not saying it shouldn’t, but it doesn’t make you not antisemitic.