• I'm back on my BS 🤪@lemmy.autism.place
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    4 months ago

    Considering that autistic people have hyper connectivity within brain sections but hypo connectivity between them, I wonder if psychedelics hit them noticeably different from normies.

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        4 months ago

        I don’t know that I’m autistic enough. Seemed to have a similar experience with both Shrooms and LSD as everyone else. I’ve only had one bad trip, and it was shrooms. A little Ativan and some company and I pulled through. It is usually a very happy, warm, and enlightening experience

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      4 months ago

      That’s what I feel. Like frames seem to get mixed together and I have to do a manual refresh. But this is also how I can build castles in the clouds.

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    4 months ago

    It’s not desyncronized. Just synchronized in a different way we’re not used to.

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        4 months ago

        To be honest I hope my comment helps people understand the nature of psychedelics. Think of it as tl:dr

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            4 months ago

            I’d say yes.

            If you have two instruments playing the same tune, they’re synchronised. You can keep them in sync, even when the tune changes, as long as it changes in the same way for both instruments.

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              4 months ago

              That is still the same two instruments in sync. There was not a new resynchronization

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                4 months ago

                They’re synchronising on a different wave length.

                I don’t know how else you’d “synchronise differently”?

                You’ve changed the tone. It’s a new thing. A different thing playing.

                Yet at no point were the instruments out of sync.

                I’m not arguing psychedelics don’t desync the brain (I feel the do sort of retune the instrument as it were, only for it to be better able to sync with others), I’m arguing you can stay in sync while changing what is that is in sync.

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                  4 months ago

                  Yeah, no, that makes no sense, furthering my point that you can’t. The instruments are what is in sync. Not the music. Tone doesn’t matter. If the instruments remain in the same synchronization, then they are just still synchronized

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              4 months ago

              Wow. Now explain poly-rhythms and asyncopated comping. You sound like a musical genius. /s

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                Yeah no, I’m not too shabby on musical theory.

                Resolve a debate in a separate sub-thread of the comment you replied to.

                When two people play instruments, and they’re playing at the same tempo (although this is prolly a simplification), are they not in sync at that point?

                Or would they not?

                No, I’m no musical genius, or even an amateur, it’s one of mh worst subjects, musical theory, but it seems to me that if we were to use the analogy of music to psychedelics, I think it would be a bit disingenuous to say the brain desyncs, unless it’s in a similar way as with a phase shift in music, but since that sort of still sounds good, wouldn’t we be able to argue phase music is still “in sync”?

                Synchronisation has a lot of meanings depending on context. Biology, neurobiology, music, physics, friggin timetables.

                So yeah, your expertise in music is of little use except to improve this analogy. I feel like you can’t comment on the original topic as much. Psychedelics and their pharmacology and neuropsychiatric effects.

                I’ll be pleased to be proved wrong though.

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                  Ok. Based on what? Definitely not that I cultivate and grow psilocybin. Couldn’t be that. Nor could it be that I make DMT as well. Definitely wouldn’t inform me on this topic at all. Moreover, I’m probably awful at all that music stuff, too. Shit, what could a faceless, nameless stranger on the internet know about anything? Probably not much.

                  You win.