• yesman@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I read the abstract, and the connection to your title is a mystery. Are you using “grock” as in “transcendental understanding” or as Musk’s branded AI?

      • Hackworth@lemmy.worldOP
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        3 months ago

        No c, just grok, originally from Stranger in a Strange Land. But a more technical definition is provided and expanded upon in the paper. Mystery easily dispelled!

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          3 months ago

          In that case I refer you to u/catloaf 's post. A machine cannot grock, not at any speed.

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          3 months ago

          Thanks for clarifying, now please refer to the poster’s original statement:

          AI doesn’t grok anything. It doesn’t have any capability of understanding at all. It’s a Markov chain on steroids.

          • Hackworth@lemmy.worldOP
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            3 months ago

            We follow the classic experimental paradigm reported in Power et al. (2022) for analyzing “grokking”, a poorly understood phenomenon in which validation accuracy dramatically improves long after the train loss saturates. Unlike the previous templates, this one is more amenable to open-ended empirical analysis (e.g. what conditions grokking occurs) rather than just trying to improve performance metrics

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              3 months ago

              Oh okay so they’re just redefining words that are already well-defined so they can make fancy claims.

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                3 months ago

                Well-defined for casual use is very different than well-defined for scholarly research. It’s standard practice to take colloquial vocab and more narrowly define it for use within a scientific discipline. Sometimes different disciplines will narrowly define the same word two different ways, which makes interdisciplinary communication pretty funny.