Welcome to Kagi, the paid search engine full of surprises, which today opened an account in the Fediverse!

@fediverse

@kagihq is the very interesting project for a paid search engine, without tracers and with an accuracy in identifying results such as to exclude all Google spam.

Those who believe that #Kagi’s costs are too high, should reflect on a small detail: if Google lets all those searches be done “for free”, who pays those costs? The answer might seem simple: “advertisers”.

Yet this would be an incomplete answer: like saying that rain is caused by clouds!

In reality, those costs are paid by users, by being milked and letting Google extract their “value”, a bit like in the human farm in Matrix…

We first heard about Kagi on the @lealternative website (unfortunately, since then the prices have increased a lot, raising many doubts about the sustainability of the project) and recently Cory Doctorow also talked about it on @pluralistic

In any case, we are really happy that a service like Kagi’s, effective and respectful of users’ privacy, has landed here in the #Fediverse.

mastodon.social/@kagihq/113074…

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    16 days ago

    I’ve tested kagi and agree that the search results are great. What I don’t like is that it’s making anonymous searching impossible, since I have to be logged in to use it (or use my unique token as part of the url for mobile searches).

    Ultimately this means to me that in a private window mode (or even logged out with a fingerprinting resistant browser) I do not have the same degree of anonymity I enjoy even when using Google, let alone DDG or others.

    I like the idea of not being dependent on google, but exposing my entire search history to one single entity is not my answer of choice.

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      15 days ago

      If you think search engine giants like Google can’t track you when you’re not logged in, you think wrong.

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        I’m using a browser setup hardened against fingerprinting, block all known trackers, and cookies are barred from cross-site activity.

        Might not be impossible to track me regardless, but at least I’m not giving them everything with a chef’s kiss on top.

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      16 days ago

      It’s worth remembering that you don’t have to do all your searching on one platform. I certainly don’t.

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        16 days ago

        I’m going to do a search to see if I can find out what this guys searching for!

        …why’s he think he’s so special, anyways? Searching on 5 different platforms…what is he? CIA?

        OH CRAP! WHAT IF HE’S CIA??? HE’S COMING TO TAKE MY CORN!!! HE’S BEEN SPYING ON ME IN MY WEBCAM EATING CORN NAKED!!!

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      First thing in their privacy statement:

      • Searches are anonymous and private to you. Kagi does not log and associate searches with an account.

      You can claim that they are lying but I personally do not think they do.

      https://kagi.com/privacy

      Google is not private and they track you on every web page, building up a profile of your searches, weather you are logged in or not.

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      16 days ago

      @viking you are right: this is a serious criticality. However, Kagi aims to provide an optimal search service, but it is not focused on anonymity.

      From that point of view, Brave’s search engine is much better, which has improved a lot