Because they are a non profit which makes stuff one likes?

September 18, 2024 is “old shit”?

It’s obviously orchestrated

Haha hard to believe people are actually donating to Mozilla so that they can spend that money on political donations, exec salaries, and useless projects they kill shortly afterwards.

To be fair I believe being as fucking stupid as possible is a prerequisite of being a CEO of anything.

I hope discovery finds something obvious to this effect, or we’re all going to have a bad time in the near future

Fucking stop with this conspiracy theory already, i’m reading it for the third time this thread. As if CEOs can’t make bad decisions and there has to be a “realll11” reason.

I think most Firefox users don’t care

Oh we care, but there’s no alternative besides Chrome and Safari and those companies are even worse (Google definitely is, anyway, Apple is debatable)

Luckily there’s still alternatives like Librewolf that unfortunately still use Mozilla’s browser engine.

I do hope the Servo project will be ready to use in a production browser soon.

What they mean with AI features is also their offline website translation feature, which is something I’ve wanted for years. The alternative is online Google website translation.

Honestly a lot of Firefox users are eyeing forks

They are a Silicon Valley-based foundation half-heartedly rehashing Silicon Valley’s worst trends.

The truth is, you have to do these sorts of things to attract and retain talent, even if they aren’t great ideas.

Yeah repositories and FTP don’t include that, but it is kind shady that the first way to get it (website) for the majority of regular users (Windows/macOS) has a unique ID - after all this is the company that goes all in for privacy…

Must be for ad attribution and install tracking. Only something a major portion of their users are specifically trying to avoid when they’re choosing Firefox.

Nothing, not everyone liked it, the only difference is that my comment would result in a shit show of downvotes last week while not people are starting to realize what Mozilla/Firefox really is. Mozilla was never the “all savior” pained them to be and it only took Wireshark and a couple of minutes to see it.

That is blatantly false. Don’t even waste your time.

I have this in user.js:

// settings user-test-programm
user_pref("app.shield.optoutstudies.enabled", false);

// dont use me as guinea pig
user_pref("app.normandy.enabled", false);
user_pref("app.normandy.optoutstudies.enabled", false);
user_pref("messaging-system.rsexperimentloader.enabled", false);

// side-loading of telemetry-extension
user_pref("extensions.systemAddon.update.enabled", false);

// disable Mozillas new tracking aggragation thingy
user_pref("dom.private-attribution.submission.enabled", false,);

// almost only for tracking useful
user_pref("beacon.enabled", false); // so webpage can send (tracking) data before you close tab
user_pref("browser.send_pings", false); // hyperlink auditing (click-tracking)

Note: the last two are more nuanced.

Argument for beacon is that webpages will use a more intrusive way with noticeable delay to upload data on tab close. I personally prefer that, as a warning, but never saw one after years.

Argument for send_pings is, that trackers will use more mean and stealthier ways to track you, if they don’t have that interface (same as in private-attribution). I do know however, that companies who track you have high greed and low morale to begin with, and use all they can get to generate more money.

Just fire up Wireshark and inspect what Firefox calls, a lot of calling home and even if you change all the settings and config parameters to something sane it will still contact a 3rd party analytics company. Mozilla also acquired an ad analytics company recently for some reason.

Season 2 - Bart gets hit by a car. Bart gets hit by Mr Burns while skateboarding. Homer uses Lionel Hutz to sue his employer, Mr Burns for 1 million dollars. On receiving notice, Mr Burns tells Smithers to fire Homer. Smithers asks “Do you think that’s wise, sir? Think of the headlines”

It’s better to treat incompetence as maliciousness, than to treat maliciousness as incompetence.

The benefit of the doubt should only apply in the absence of a longstanding pattern of behavior to the contrary.

IMO Mozilla has run out of goodwill.

Exactly

They are just good at burning money and getting nothing done

Sure, but it’s worth asking why the management is so poor. Many people have theorized that it’s because Google is pulling the strings; It would be in Google’s best interest to keep Firefox around on life support, because it helps them avoid antitrust lawsuits if they can point to Firefox and go “nope not every browser is Chromium based!” But it’s also in Google’s best interest to whittle Firefox’s usage down to near zero, which is what every single recent Mozilla decision has been aiming to do.

Mozilla was getting paid a lot of money by Google before Google got their hand slapped in an antitrust lawsuit. Many people have theorized that since that lawsuit, Google has pivoted to making deals directly with Mozilla’s management instead.

Its also sadly maintained by transphobic weirdos

Have you seen the amount of web standards? HTML5 by itself is huge

Servo is ridiculously behind Firefox

It’s because the devs just don’t want to. Not really sure why, would be good to have that kind of interoperability.

I have met Steve at Ms several times, and he always seemed like a nice and genuinely motivated person. He seemed to like product challenges and even took on hard tasks like leading the core team of Windows 8.1 App enablement ( think of getting Facebook to create a Windows native app). I’d believe him that Mozilla treated him wrongly or asked unfair things of him, otherwise he wouldn’t need to take these steps.