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Isn’t Star Citizen that named grift that’s been going on for a decade or so?
So they’re just announcing they have either incompetent product managers, executives who refuse to believe reality, or both.
I hope their developers all find better roles.
For record, as a developer, I have worked many a weekend in my career during crunch. I was never mandated to do so, and I always made up the time afterwards. Only once in my entire career was it 2 weekends in a row, and it’s because it was a big that was because of me.
Crunches are regular and unfortunately common in software development. The difference here is star citizen devs are well compensated and given time in lieu
Crunches are regular and common
… and that’s not good and needs to change. You forgot to write the important part.
Bullshit. First for you assuming I’m not well compensated for my work, and also assuming that compensation makes up for not seeing your family for weeks. Crunches are normal, mandated multiple weeks without a day off are not normal.
Would you mind sharing what you think a crunch is if not for working overtime?
I’m a dev too so well done and fuck you for being well compensated? Hahah
The difference here is star citizen devs are well compensated and given time in lieu
How did you come to this conclusion? IIRC their salaries are below average.
given time in lieu
after squadron 42 ships*
After citizencon in 2 weeks
Does it confirm they are getting TOIL in the article? (It’s not loading for me)
Yes
That’s just a bad way to run a company
Software development as a service?
The email continues that UK employees “need to be mindful of the hours they work and are asked to have 11 hours outside of work in each 24-hour period.”
This is an attempt to stay within working time regulations in the UK but they are violating this bit
By law (The Working Time Regulations 1998), employees and workers have the right to the following rest: …. between working weeks – 24 hours every 7 working days or 48 hours every 14 working days
By having a 19 day unbroken run which, as I understand it, is not legal.
That’s bad but also the first bit is basically saying “work 13 hour days” which is nuts.
Why don’t they just hire more people with the $700 million they’ve raised?
That also doesn’t work.
Because the owners have grifted all of that away to private accounts already of course.
They have a convention for this vaporware? …And people still go to it?!
Firefall walked so that Star Citizen could run.
Don’t understand the negative response, all devs are being compensated for it and being given extra leave
You don’t understand because you think it’s normal. That shit is not normal.
That’s like saying “well, they treat their slaves well! What are y’all complaining about?” when the issue is that you’re a slave.
it’s about consent. asking people to volunteer is fine, but mandating it isn’t. People have lives, kids, obligations, which might be worth more then two days of time in lieu.
Then =/= than
Sure but it’s 2 weekends? I’m sure there would be exceptions
Why do they need to work these two weekends on a project that has been ongoing for years?
Did you read the article? Pretty well explained
Yeah, and fuck that. If I perform well on the job, I’m sure as hell not being there for mandated bullshit. Fire me if you want.
Guess what those policies do? They drive your good employees away, and you keep those who can’t find somewhere better.
So what do they do with the kids at the weekend when nursery’s are closed?
CIG could have hired more people previously…
Read the mythical man month. Hiring more people does NOT get software projects completed faster
Not immediately. It’s more of a warning about throwing short term resources on to get quick results. However, under resourcing and overworking staff does not exactly lead to speedy development.
The key point was previously. It’s not like this is their first attempt. They know the work that goes into this and they know what their aims were long ago.
“imposes”
