More dataisdepressing than dataisbeautiful

    • Tinidril@midwest.social
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      1 month ago

      No, it’s not “men’s” fault, but the people who’s fault it is are primarily men. That’s not an opinion, that’s just history, not to mention what’s happening before our eyes. Even women who are fascist push patriarchy. There is no point in debating whether fascism is primarily a male driven phenomenon. The only legitimate question is why?

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      1 month ago

      Your misconstruing the statement. Fascism is a way for insecure men to feel powerful. These men are feeling insecure due to lack of job prospects, lack of honest to God to physical insecurity, and that also makes them less desirable to potential mates.

      The way to protect against fascism is to ensure proper addressing of Maslow‘s-goddamn-hierarchy of needs. Endstage, capitalism leads to fascism, but it has to secure itself in spreading racism and sexism.

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      1 month ago

      I knew it as soon as I read your ‘Tate is right’ bullshit.

      So facism is mens fault?

      Yes. Men had all the political power in the countries that turned to fascism in the past. If you knew any history this would be obvious.

      I wonder how that effects a young man who isnt a facist while they are developing?

      The same way that one woman having an abortion harms another woman; not at all.

      Ur narrative is actively harming young men and driving them to be the very thing u swore to drstroy.

      It’s room temperature IQ weakling reactionaries like you that are harming young men. Real men stand against fascists.

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        Yes. Men had all the political power in the countries that turned to fascism in the past. If you knew any history this would be obvious.

        this is kind of meaningless to point out, since men also had the power in every country that turned towards socialism, gave or took away rights, started and ended wars, etc.

      • 🇦🇺𝕄𝕦𝕟𝕥𝕖𝕕𝕔𝕣𝕠𝕔𝕕𝕚𝕝𝕖@lemm.ee
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        1 month ago

        I knew it as soon as I read your ‘Tate is right’ bullshit.

        So men have no issues and the only reason men are listening to tate is cos they are hatfull evil bastards?

        Yes. Men had all the political power in the countries that turned to fascism in the past. If you knew any history this would be obvious.

        Im so happy to learn that women didnt go along with fascism or support it in any way. If u knew anything about history u’d have heard of Magda Goebbels, Irma Grese, Eva Braun, Margaret Harker, Yukiko Sugishita etc.

        The same way that one woman having an abortion harms another woman; not at all.

        Abortions are about the liberty to do with onself as one wishes, what does this got to do with u blaming men for fascism? Having your gender (something where most people derive a majority of their identity) blamed for the entirety of facism and its hanouse actions isnt exactly fair or a good way to raise a child.

        It’s room temperature IQ weakling reactionaries like you that are harming young men. Real men stand against fascists.

        This is bad faith child-like insults not a civilised discussion of ideas undertaken by real adults. I stand against fascists and i will not let you paint me as one.

        • Cypher@lemmy.world
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          There are definitely issues affecting men, the only men listening to Tate are weaklings looking to a perceived ‘tough guy’ for answers.

          If u knew anything about history

          I would also know they didn’t get voted into positions of power, give speeches, command invasions or otherwise directly wield any power. Because they were living in patriarchal societies. Please think before you comment.

          Abortions are about the liberty to do with onself as one wishes, what does this got to do with u blaming men for fascism?

          As much as calling out fascists has to do with impacting the political views of non-fascists. There’s an Explain Like I’m Five sub somewhere you could post this question to.

          If you don’t want to be insulted you should avoid entering conversations by parroting the views of rapists.

          • There are definitely issues affecting men, the only men listening to Tate are weaklings looking to a perceived ‘tough guy’ for answers.

            Yes exactly, im simpky saying thwy wouldnt be listening if he hadnt resonated with their issues.

            I would also know they didn’t get voted into positions of power, give speeches, command invasions or otherwise directly wield any power. Because they were living in patriarchal societies. Please think before you comment.

            If we go back to your original claim that facism is entirely mens fault and this claim that women had no power does this make these women innocent? Also by ur logic men did literally everything else including go to war to fight facsism. You implication here is that its not human history but mans history and if i where i women id find that pretty demeaning.

            As much as calling out fascists has to do with impacting the political views of non-fascists. There’s an Explain Like I’m Five sub somewhere you could post this question to.

            If you don’t want to be insulted you should avoid entering conversations by parroting the views of rapists.

            Again attacking the person is not good faith discussion i refuse to engage in bad faith insults.

    • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      The only possible explanation for any of this is that men are bad and we should definitely not examine the underlying causes and material conditions at all.