“Passkeys,” the secure authentication mechanism built to replace passwords, are getting more portable and easier for organizations to implement thanks to new initiatives the FIDO Alliance announced on Monday.

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    2 months ago

    Actually, it is still a problem, because passwords are a shared secret between you and the server, which means the server has that secret in some sort of form. With passkeys, the server never has the secret.

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      2 months ago

      The shared secret with my Vaultwarden server? Add mfa and someone needs to explain to me how passkeys do anything more than saving one single solitary click.

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        When a website gets hacked they only find public keys, which are useless without the private keys.

        Private keys stored on a password manager are still more secure, as those services are (hopefully!) designed with security in mind from the beginning.

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          If a website with old-school passwords gets hacked, the hacker only gets salted hashes of passwords - this does not seem to be much worse?

          (Websites that store plaintext passwords surely won’t implement passkeys either…)

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        Pass keys are for websites such as Google, Facebook, TikTok, etc. And then they go into what is currently your password manager or if you don’t have one, it goes into your device. You still have to prove to that password manager that you are, who you say you are, either by a master password of some sort or biometrics.

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      You can share passwords without the server seeing them. Many managers don’t but there’s nothing infeasible there. You just have a password to unlock the manager. Done.

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        What I’m getting at is that a web server has a password, in some form. And so if that site gets breached, your password itself may not get leaked, but the hash will. And if the hash is a common hash, then it can be easily cracked or guessed.

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          Ultimately I’m pro passkey but when it comes to password managers: if the hash of your vault is easy to crack you’ve fucked up big time. There shouldn’t be any way to crack that key with current tech before the sun explodes because you should be using a high entropy passphrase.

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          Not anything sufficiently modern. Salted passwords should be exceedingly difficult to reverse.